Gotta a Problem (got coilovers, wife thinks too stiff)
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Bilsteins don't really get much softer but they do "mellow" out somewhat. That may be good news but the bad news is because they are built so precise, don't be surprised if it takes 10K miles plus to get a bit less harsh. That's more time then most people here leave any mod on their car.
Only other thing to do is to look at the tires. Don't worry too much about playing mine is harder then yours, start backing the pressure down. The GS can very quickly get that wonderful buckboard ride with certain combos. Lexus always used to set both mine and my wife's tires to 35psi when it was in for service but they now set to 32 on the service paperwork, I don't think this happened coincidentally. The next day when the tires are cool, I usually let down from there. My GS4 is a bit more tolerant but my wife's GS3 is pretty sensitive to tire pressure. Both on stock 16s.
Only other thing to do is to look at the tires. Don't worry too much about playing mine is harder then yours, start backing the pressure down. The GS can very quickly get that wonderful buckboard ride with certain combos. Lexus always used to set both mine and my wife's tires to 35psi when it was in for service but they now set to 32 on the service paperwork, I don't think this happened coincidentally. The next day when the tires are cool, I usually let down from there. My GS4 is a bit more tolerant but my wife's GS3 is pretty sensitive to tire pressure. Both on stock 16s.
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Originally posted by DaveGS4
Just out of curiosity what wheels / tires do you have on your GS? A fat tire setup might help a bit?
Just out of curiosity what wheels / tires do you have on your GS? A fat tire setup might help a bit?
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mo, you can't really make the Bilstein coilovers softer riding except somewhat by switching to a taller sidewall tire or rim/tire combo. I'm sure you don't want to go to a 16" rim but you could go to a next taller series 17" tire (the stock 17 tires are actually smaller in diameter than the 16s anyway!).
The other alternative is to switch to another type of coilover - the Tein CS is a popular one for a more comfortable ride. I'm sure you'll have no problem selling the Bilstein PSS ones for a good price. The only rub is that you will eat the install/uninstall.
The other alternative is to switch to another type of coilover - the Tein CS is a popular one for a more comfortable ride. I'm sure you'll have no problem selling the Bilstein PSS ones for a good price. The only rub is that you will eat the install/uninstall.
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To me its amazing that the only mod a made was the PSS and the car handles completely different. From reading more threads, I'm hoping a different set of coilovers and sways, stb, etc. will give me good handling with a more compliant ride.
Bit - You raved about your car running circles around a 540 sport and thats what I want. Was that with l-tuned or tein and how compliant was the ride compared to stock? I'll admit that I'm now a little gun shy from the coilovers, since I really didn't the stiffest ones out there. I thought I was going middle of the road.
Bit - You raved about your car running circles around a 540 sport and thats what I want. Was that with l-tuned or tein and how compliant was the ride compared to stock? I'll admit that I'm now a little gun shy from the coilovers, since I really didn't the stiffest ones out there. I thought I was going middle of the road.
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Originally posted by mo98gs4
Bit - You raved about your car running circles around a 540 sport and thats what I want. Was that with l-tuned or tein and how compliant was the ride compared to stock?
Bit - You raved about your car running circles around a 540 sport and thats what I want. Was that with l-tuned or tein and how compliant was the ride compared to stock?
The Bilstein PSS have stiff springs up front which is probably what your wife is objecting to, but yeah, that's what make them handle so well.
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I'll admit that I'm now a little gun shy from the coilovers, since I really didn't the stiffest ones out there. I thought I was going middle of the road.
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Well...it sounds like no coilover setup may do it for you since from what I have read I dont think the PSS is that stiff. I just purchased the L-tuned setup (springs and shocks) and I have worries that it may not be what I want thats why they are not installed yet. I actually need to get with Dave and take a ride in his car.
On a side note,,,,my ride with Bit in the ATL was very impressive but he does have a 400 while my car is a 300.
On a side note,,,,my ride with Bit in the ATL was very impressive but he does have a 400 while my car is a 300.
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Originally posted by Letsride
Well...it sounds like no coilover setup may do it for you since from what I have read I dont think the PSS is that stiff. I just purchased the L-tuned setup (springs and shocks) and I have worries that it may not be what I want thats why they are not installed yet. I actually need to get with Dave and take a ride in his car.
On a side note,,,,my ride with Bit in the ATL was very impressive but he does have a 400 while my car is a 300.
Well...it sounds like no coilover setup may do it for you since from what I have read I dont think the PSS is that stiff. I just purchased the L-tuned setup (springs and shocks) and I have worries that it may not be what I want thats why they are not installed yet. I actually need to get with Dave and take a ride in his car.
On a side note,,,,my ride with Bit in the ATL was very impressive but he does have a 400 while my car is a 300.
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Originally posted by rominl
well from what pearlpower said, the tein flex is softer than the pss. if that's the case, i suggest the tein cs, which is very soft (i love it)
well from what pearlpower said, the tein flex is softer than the pss. if that's the case, i suggest the tein cs, which is very soft (i love it)
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All,
Thanks for the advice! I got the okay to get the l-tuned and ordered those today. Couldn't convince the wife on spending the $ for the tein. I'm hoping l-tuned with daizen sways will give me good handling but not too stiff a ride.
The l-tuned should be in next week. Thanks all!
Thanks for the advice! I got the okay to get the l-tuned and ordered those today. Couldn't convince the wife on spending the $ for the tein. I'm hoping l-tuned with daizen sways will give me good handling but not too stiff a ride.
The l-tuned should be in next week. Thanks all!
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You will be very pleased. It will be a huge improvement and still comfortable.
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Originally posted by mo98gs4
All,
Thanks for the advice! I got the okay to get the l-tuned and ordered those today. Couldn't convince the wife on spending the $ for the tein. I'm hoping l-tuned with daizen sways will give me good handling but not too stiff a ride.
The l-tuned should be in next week. Thanks all!
All,
Thanks for the advice! I got the okay to get the l-tuned and ordered those today. Couldn't convince the wife on spending the $ for the tein. I'm hoping l-tuned with daizen sways will give me good handling but not too stiff a ride.
The l-tuned should be in next week. Thanks all!
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