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Old 03-10-04, 11:59 PM
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Default For those with front AND rear supra brakes?

Ya guys think having the rears make a big difference as opposed to have just the fronts?
Old 03-11-04, 05:57 AM
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Yes there is a noticable difference.
I first installed the fronts with new pads for the stock rear and noticed some instability with sudden braking. The car felt much more stable after installing the rear TT brakes. My 2yen






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awsome so u definately recommend the rears?

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Old 03-11-04, 06:06 AM
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IF you can get front and rear you will love the brakes they work great .
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The TT calipers are 2 pot, vs I pot for the stock SC calipers. So ,therefore, you should have a bit more rear braking power.

Are the TT rear rotors the same as SC, or are they larger diameter than OEM SC?
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the rotors are bigger on the supra than that on the sc. you have to trim the dust cover on the sc to allow the rotors to fit properly.
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Originally posted by vipsoarer
the rotors are bigger on the supra than that on the sc. you have to trim the dust cover on the sc to allow the rotors to fit properly.
Couldn't you use Supra TT dust covers?

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Originally posted by MoogieBoogie
Couldn't you use Supra TT dust covers?

-Brian.
Yes you can. There is a write up on the TT brake install on the Australian Lexus Soarer Club website. In the write up, the installer puts on TT dust shields. I priced then recently and they are not too expensive, less than $30 per. However, just as in the removal of the stock dust shields you have to do some trimming to avoid having to pull the hub, you will have to trim the TT shields to install them. However, they will bolt up just fine, according to the Aussie site. Check it out, their tech write ups are very thorough.
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alrighty... i guess my next question would be... how much did you guys pay for front AND rear?
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Are MkIV Series 2 brakes easy to find in the US (say, of wrecks etc.)? They seem to be a bit hard to find here in Australia, the 4 pot fronts and 2 pot rears (I think they were 2 pot rears)?
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Default Re: For those with front AND rear supra brakes?

Originally posted by ummagawd
Ya guys think having the rears make a big difference as opposed to have just the fronts?
I actually put my rear calipers on first before the fronts and it was weird being pulled to a stop by the rear brakes.
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Originally posted by rushgator
The TT calipers are 2 pot, vs I pot for the stock SC calipers. So ,therefore, you should have a bit more rear braking power.

Are the TT rear rotors the same as SC, or are they larger diameter than OEM SC?
Supra rears are 1pot not 2. The rears are 12.6" like the fronts.

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so how much did ya guys pay for your TT brakes front and rear (or seperately)?
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Hermosa, the info I found on the Supra TT calipers says they are 2 pot. However, thr info is from the Aussie site, so it may be different there. I have never seen a Supra TT rear caliper (execpt on a Supra) so I can't say for sure. You may have seen several, so you are probably right. Now I'm curious: is there a 2 pot available, or are the Aussies wrong on that? Here's a part of the article: (it didn't space very well, but you can figure it out. Or, you can go here: http://www.lexus.australia.as/entry.htm and see for yourself)

JZA80 1996–2002 Twin Turbo Supra Front & Rear Brakes

xZZ3x Soarer and JZA80 Supra share the same suspension / chassis platform and therefore the braking components are interchangeable. The premium Supra braking components offer a viable and straightforward upgrade opportunity for Soarer owners.

Specifications / Comparison Front Rotor Rear Rotor Front Pots Rear Pots
JZA80 Supra TT 96+ 324mm 325mm 4 2
JZZ30 Soarer 296mm 307mm 2 1
UZZ31 Soarer TBA TBA 2 1
UZZ32 Soarer 296mm 307mm 2 1
JZZ31 Soarer TBA TBA 2 1

Braking performance comparison.
Vehicle Braking horsepower
Ferrari F1 7000+
Porsche Twin Turbo GT1 2060
Brembo/AP 6 pot 385mm discs 2040
Mercedes Brabus V12 1950
Supra TT 4 pots with Mintex grooved discs 1760
Wilwood Rallystop 4pot 355mm discs 1750
Brembo/AP 6 pot 355mm discs 1680
Maclaren F1 1670
Supra TT 4 pots 1665
Wilwood Rallystop 4pot 320mm discs 1640
Brembo/AP 6 pot 320mm discs 1590
Porsche 996 C2/C4 1590
Ferrari 456GT 1480
Supra / Soarer TT 2 pots 1010
Lamborghini Muira (1966) 780
Ford Mondeo 2Ltr Saloon 700

Parts List:

Front Parts:
Used Parts – Cresta, QLD, 07 32451555
Quantity Description Part Number Price Total
1 JZA80 TT Front LHS calliper 4775014270 250.00 250.00
1 JZA80 TT Front RHS calliper 4773014260 250.00 250.00
500.00

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New Parts – Penrith Toyota, NSW, 02 4736 2722
Quantity Description Part Number Club Price Total
1 JZA80 TT Front LHS Rotor 4351214200 266.90 266.90
1 JZA80 TT Front RHS Rotor 4351614030 266.90 266.90
1 JZA80 TT Front Cylinder Kit 0447914140 56.95 56.95
1 JZA80 TT Front Fitting Kit 0494714010 33.36 33.36
1 JZA80 TT Front Shim Kit 0494514110 32.51 32.51
1 JZA80 TT Front LHS Cover 4778214160 45.00 45.00
1 JZA80 TT Front RHS Cover 4778114160 45.00 45.00
1 TRD JZA80 TT Front Pads No Number Req. 280.00 280.00
1026.62

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Rear Parts:
Used Parts - Cresta, QLD, 07 32451555
Quantity Description Part Number Price Total
1 JZA80 TT Rear LHS calliper 4775014280 225.00 225.00
1 JZA80 TT Rear RHS calliper 4775014270 225.00 225.00
450.00

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New Parts – Penrith Toyota, NSW, 02 4736 2722
Quantity Description Part Number Club Price Total
4 Park Brake Shoes 46540-50010 26.20 104.80
2 JZA80 TT Rear Rotor 42431-14150 302.95 605.90
1 JZA80 TT Rear Cylinder Kit 04479-14130 53.10 53.10
1 JZA80 TT Rear Fitting Kit 04948-14010 14.10 14.10
1 JZA80 TT Rear Shim Kit 04946-14030 72.00 72.00
1 TRD JZA80 TT Rear Pads No Number Req. 280.00 280.00
1129.90

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Misc Parts:
Quantity Description Part Number Price Total
2 MOTUL RBF600 500ml Brake Fluid N/A 25.00 50.00
4 Sandblast and Overhaul Callipers N/A 25.00 100.00
150.00
Grand Total: 3256.52

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ummagawd : These prices are Ausssie $'s, so you will have to do the conversion to get the USD price, but I think it is a fair comparison of what you should expect to pay.
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Originally posted by rushgator
Specifications / Comparison Front Rotor Rear Rotor Front Pots Rear Pots
JZA80 Supra TT 96+ 324mm 325mm 4 2
JZZ30 Soarer 296mm 307mm 2 1
UZZ31 Soarer TBA TBA 2 1
UZZ32 Soarer 296mm 307mm 2 1
JZZ31 Soarer TBA TBA 2 1

TBA??? (To Be Announced??)

Forgive me for not knowing all the chassis codes, I would suppose the UZ is equivalent ot the USDM SC400, as it has the 1UZ engine.....

From the FAQ on intellexual.net
Originally posted by Intellexual.net
The SC400 has larger disc brakes (11.7-inch front & 12.1-inch rear) compared to the SC300 (10.8-inch front & 11.4-inch rear).
So the sc400 brakes might be somewhat of an upgrade for the sc3, but NOT as beefy as the TT upgrade.

I'm not advocating the sc400 swap over the TT, just adding it for completness I suppose.
-PHiZ


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