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Originally Posted by ant1k
yes as a matter of fact i would - thanks
Okay, I think that's about all to be said about the JIC tie-rods. Unless your old ones are in need of replacement, or your suspension has been highly modified and you're looking to combat bumpsteer/tracking issues, I would spend the $200 on something else.
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I'll ask a question, did the ride change?
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I fail to see how those alone can resolve or help with "bump"suspension concerns. Manufacturer only claim that parts are made "stronger" than factory, this is the possible gain if any.
Tie rods are part of steering rack and as such have not much to do with suspension geometry of rack and pinion setup. As long as those allow for placing the toe into green after mods they are OK.
With modified suspension with bump steer issiues in regard of steering rack I would rather look for proper placement or the steering rack itself in relation to the rest of the suspension, not the tie rods itself. Not much to gain there....
Tie rods are part of steering rack and as such have not much to do with suspension geometry of rack and pinion setup. As long as those allow for placing the toe into green after mods they are OK.
With modified suspension with bump steer issiues in regard of steering rack I would rather look for proper placement or the steering rack itself in relation to the rest of the suspension, not the tie rods itself. Not much to gain there....
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Yes, EUROJulian these tie-rods will by no means eliminate bumpsteer on their own. If the car has been lowered, and a camber kit has been applied to the upper arms thereby 'lengthening' them, you've created a new suspension arc. You can align the car and adjust the toe to green, but this is while the car is at rest. The tie-rod is moving within a different arc in comparison to the upper and lower a-arms. The only improvement that aftermarket tie-rods such as these can really offer, is if your stock rods are bending at the point where those two arcs are conflicting.. These stronger rods will resist that bending, but obviously this isn't a proper cure....and it's effect is minimal. Some manufacturers such as Stillen will claim that their tie-rods cure bumpsteer (Stillen also claims that their rear sway bars are 5-way adjustable by staggering the setting between the left and right sides...which is going to pre-load one side of the suspension). There's no way a set of tie-rods will fix the problem, and yes, the placement of the rack would have to be moved to actually cure the problem. Moving the rack up to work within the new arc is the only real cure I can think of. Other than that, you're only really making changes which will have a slight effect on helping to hide the problem.
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P. Williams is wellinformed on suspension!
Relocating the rack is a possibility, and another solution would be in modification of the tie rod ends. For other cars, many aftermarket tie rod ends allow them to be shimmed to a proper height so that the tie rods sit in a more natural state in relation to the rack. I haven't looked too hard into tie rod end options on the SC, or even the assembly on my own SC, so this may be a moot point.
Here's a picture of a typical adjustable aftermarket tie rod end
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I wish more people would understand the changes that occur in their suspension geometry when they slam their car. So many things get thrown off, especially if they improperly set height adjustable coilover suspensions. They can wind up with a car that handles worse than stock =P
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Relocating the rack is a possibility, and another solution would be in modification of the tie rod ends. For other cars, many aftermarket tie rod ends allow them to be shimmed to a proper height so that the tie rods sit in a more natural state in relation to the rack. I haven't looked too hard into tie rod end options on the SC, or even the assembly on my own SC, so this may be a moot point.
Here's a picture of a typical adjustable aftermarket tie rod end
I wish more people would understand the changes that occur in their suspension geometry when they slam their car. So many things get thrown off, especially if they improperly set height adjustable coilover suspensions. They can wind up with a car that handles worse than stock =P