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Old 10-02-05, 04:21 PM
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Default Loose Steering on 2002 GS300

Hello,
I bought a Certified Pre-Owned '02 GS300 about a week ago with 40K miles on it.
Today, after a few freeway rides, and some city driving,
the steering is feeling a little loose (it was tight till yesterday).
Any idea what could be wrong, or what should I do next?
Old 10-02-05, 04:33 PM
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can you be a little more specific? Loose as in it shakes? steers too easy? what are the symptoms?
Old 10-02-05, 06:57 PM
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Loose as in there's some "play" to it, before it becomes tight and you can feel it get tight and start steering the wheels. No shake, nothing to do with the speed.
Old 01-24-08, 08:52 AM
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damn, i'm feeling that on my GS4 as of late.

it was tight for a while when i put on the daizen steering bushings, but as of late, feels loose.
Old 01-24-08, 09:11 AM
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you're just getting too used to it. my friend also with a lexus with worn steering rack bushings feels a difference on my car.

get some front control arm bushing set to stiffen it up even more. soft springs also contribute to the flimsyness.
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get a Ltuned Steering ECU w/ some Daizen Steering Rack Bushings (first batch).
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Originally Posted by GSquicksilver
damn, i'm feeling that on my GS4 as of late.

it was tight for a while when i put on the daizen steering bushings, but as of late, feels loose.
did u get the first batch?
Old 01-25-08, 01:31 AM
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With the engine off and key in (steering lock off), shimmy the wheel left-right about 1-2", is it loose with a lot of free play?

Also, Have a look under the dash and reach in to the steering shaft's knuckle and shake it left-right. If it moves about 1/2"-1" then you have the same problem as me..... There is a small plastic bearing inside the steering hub that the main shaft rotates on and mine is broken.

Another sure way of seeing if this is broken is to drive over very rough ground at 5-10mph, if the steering wheel shakes then yes it is broken. A very quick temporary cure is to push your foot onto the shaft where it goes through the floor-pan and see if the play is gone.
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Originally Posted by gs-ireland
With the engine off and key in (steering lock off), shimmy the wheel left-right about 1-2", is it loose with a lot of free play?

Also, Have a look under the dash and reach in to the steering shaft's knuckle and shake it left-right. If it moves about 1/2"-1" then you have the same problem as me..... There is a small plastic bearing inside the steering hub that the main shaft rotates on and mine is broken.

Another sure way of seeing if this is broken is to drive over very rough ground at 5-10mph, if the steering wheel shakes then yes it is broken. A very quick temporary cure is to push your foot onto the shaft where it goes through the floor-pan and see if the play is gone.
Interesting, I'm going to try that today. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by gs-ireland
With the engine off and key in (steering lock off), shimmy the wheel left-right about 1-2", is it loose with a lot of free play?

Also, Have a look under the dash and reach in to the steering shaft's knuckle and shake it left-right. If it moves about 1/2"-1" then you have the same problem as me..... There is a small plastic bearing inside the steering hub that the main shaft rotates on and mine is broken.

Another sure way of seeing if this is broken is to drive over very rough ground at 5-10mph, if the steering wheel shakes then yes it is broken. A very quick temporary cure is to push your foot onto the shaft where it goes through the floor-pan and see if the play is gone.
Yes, confirmed! My plastic bearing on the steering column has some crazy play. I'm pretty sure they don't just sell these, so complete steering column replacement
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Originally Posted by GS3.0
get a Ltuned Steering ECU w/ some Daizen Steering Rack Bushings (first batch).
first batch? how do you determine what's the first batch vs others?
Old 02-15-08, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 4ntvings
first batch? how do you determine what's the first batch vs others?
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=326458
Old 02-18-08, 08:27 PM
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I just checked my column today because mine has allways had a little clatter at the wheel when i hit bumps in the road and when i turn the wheel back and forth and it appears this plastic piece your talking about is worn out. The column wiggles a bit down at the firewall. Are these replaceable:? It could possibly use bushings in the rack as well i haven't checked.
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Here is a thread on the subject from last year:

http://sr1.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278113

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^^^So there is no fix to this? Not too long ago I started noticing this and now it really bugs me.


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