[pics] Lowering: Stock vs SC Eibach vs Supra Eibach
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To me, the ride on mine (Eibach/Tokico) is still Lexus until you hit a sharp dip or bridge lip. Then you know your tigher. The bonus is you can flat turn & burn. I get off ramps with enough g's to slide my *** off the seat. I can get on the freeway cloverleaf on ramp at full romp..man thats fun.
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YEs, to use any Supra spring you must use Supra struts, the SC struts are not the right length.
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Originally Posted by NYLexSC
YEs, to use any Supra spring you must use Supra struts, the SC struts are not the right length.
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i want to order espiler shocks as well as tokico struts, but I want to know what site people use to order theirs. any recommendations??
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I have been running on Eibachs and tokico's for what has now been one year...
Positives - Outstanding handling, great lowered 1" look, pretty blue look, and the price.....
Negatives - You will lose half your suspension clearance, so in laymans terms if you hit a good dip you will bottom out.. You may experience drift in your wheel while driving on the freeway...That basically is when you are steering straight ahead the car will drift at times to one side or another and you will have to steer to correct, but only on the freeway and it is only minor......
My advice - I would say get the Eibachs over stock until you can afford some nice Tein coilovers......
Here is a pic of the Eibach springs and Tokico shocks.....
Positives - Outstanding handling, great lowered 1" look, pretty blue look, and the price.....
Negatives - You will lose half your suspension clearance, so in laymans terms if you hit a good dip you will bottom out.. You may experience drift in your wheel while driving on the freeway...That basically is when you are steering straight ahead the car will drift at times to one side or another and you will have to steer to correct, but only on the freeway and it is only minor......
My advice - I would say get the Eibachs over stock until you can afford some nice Tein coilovers......
Here is a pic of the Eibach springs and Tokico shocks.....
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Originally Posted by jibbby
I have been running on Eibachs and tokico's for what has now been one year...
Positives - Outstanding handling, great lowered 1" look, pretty blue look, and the price.....
Negatives - You will lose half your suspension clearance, so in laymans terms if you hit a good dip you will bottom out.. You may experience drift in your wheel while driving on the freeway...That basically is when you are steering straight ahead the car will drift at times to one side or another and you will have to steer to correct, but only on the freeway and it is only minor......
My advice - I would say get the Eibachs over stock until you can afford some nice Tein coilovers......
Here is a pic of the Eibach springs and Tokico shocks.....
Positives - Outstanding handling, great lowered 1" look, pretty blue look, and the price.....
Negatives - You will lose half your suspension clearance, so in laymans terms if you hit a good dip you will bottom out.. You may experience drift in your wheel while driving on the freeway...That basically is when you are steering straight ahead the car will drift at times to one side or another and you will have to steer to correct, but only on the freeway and it is only minor......
My advice - I would say get the Eibachs over stock until you can afford some nice Tein coilovers......
Here is a pic of the Eibach springs and Tokico shocks.....
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I am not familiar with the Espelir's and perhaps they are better then the Eibach's I do not know... What I do know is normal dips I will not bottom but big ones I will... It is more like a 2" drop then 1" also.... Also I find it very hard to believe any other setup will out handle the Eibachs/Tokico setup... Handles increadible with 18"s with low profile tires. This is a pic of the ground clearance and it rides low and stiff....
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Originally Posted by jibbby
I am not familiar with the Espelir's and perhaps they are better then the Eibach's I do not know... What I do know is normal dips I will not bottom but big ones I will... It is more like a 2" drop then 1" also.... Also I find it very hard to believe any other setup will out handle the Eibachs/Tokico setup... Handles increadible with 18"s with low profile tires. This is a pic of the ground clearance and it rides low and stiff....
HEre's the best pic I have of my Espelir setup, Jibbby are you sitting lower than this? (I am on 17's btw)
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Yeah probably 1" lower then yours as I am running 18"s on 235's....... Going up driveways I scrap the front spoiler all the time, I need to be careful.... These are SC Eibachs I am running on but it is more like a 2" drop.. The 1" drop that EIbach claims is very conservative....
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Originally Posted by jibbby
Yeah probably 1" lower then yours as I am running 18"s on 235's....... Going up driveways I scrap the front spoiler all the time, I need to be careful.... These are SC Eibachs I am running on but it is more like a 2" drop.. The 1" drop that EIbach claims is very conservative....
Most guys with SC Eibachs aren't sitting quite as low as you do, maybe the drop with Tokico's goes lower than Eibach on stock struts?
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I am planning on dumping my Eibachs soon and going with the Tein Flex coilovers when and if the deal presents itself on Ebay. You probably already know these coilovers are not cheap. $1000 if your lucky is what a new set will cost you...So for now the Eibachs will be fine..However I do think the Eibachs will out perform the coilovers in handling, so the coilovers are not a rush priority for me...
NYlex- Are you completely satisfied with your Espelir springs? You say you do not bottom out easy but I dont see how much better the spring rate can get between the two... Anyway do you experience wheel drift on the freeway?
I also forgot to mention I recently replaced my front lower control arms with the brand new Supra TT control arms and OEM bushings. I am sure that has alot to do with the way my car handles in comparison to other SC's..So my car may not be a good example for the SC Eibach comparisons..
NYlex- Are you completely satisfied with your Espelir springs? You say you do not bottom out easy but I dont see how much better the spring rate can get between the two... Anyway do you experience wheel drift on the freeway?
I also forgot to mention I recently replaced my front lower control arms with the brand new Supra TT control arms and OEM bushings. I am sure that has alot to do with the way my car handles in comparison to other SC's..So my car may not be a good example for the SC Eibach comparisons..
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Originally Posted by jibbby
I am planning on dumping my Eibachs soon and going with the Tein Flex coilovers when and if the deal presents itself on Ebay. You probably already know these coilovers are not cheap. $1000 if your lucky is what a new set will cost you...So for now the Eibachs will be fine..However I do think the Eibachs will out perform the coilovers in handling, so the coilovers are not a rush priority for me...
NYlex- Are you completely satisfied with your Espelir springs? You say you do not bottom out easy but I dont see how much better the spring rate can get between the two... Anyway do you experience wheel drift on the freeway?
I also forgot to mention I recently replaced my front lower control arms with the brand new Supra TT control arms and OEM bushings. I am sure that has alot to do with the way my car handles in comparison to other SC's..So my car may not be a good example for the SC Eibach's comparisons..
NYlex- Are you completely satisfied with your Espelir springs? You say you do not bottom out easy but I dont see how much better the spring rate can get between the two... Anyway do you experience wheel drift on the freeway?
I also forgot to mention I recently replaced my front lower control arms with the brand new Supra TT control arms and OEM bushings. I am sure that has alot to do with the way my car handles in comparison to other SC's..So my car may not be a good example for the SC Eibach's comparisons..
I don't bottom out ANYWHERE, and I've hit some BIG bumps. Only once have I scraped anything, and that was my rear exhaust tip while pulling out of the Lexus dealership. I do get a little bit of drift, but I also have not had an alignment done yet since I lowered the car. And yes, I am OVERLY satisfied with my setup. Ride is stiffer, but not that much stiffer than OEM, still a luxurious ride.
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Well then with all that being said I would say the Eibachs are designed strickly for performance and very little luxury, and the Espelir springs are designed more for the combination of Luxury and performance... That would be my take on the two....
Also new Supra front lower control arms and bushings also stiffened things alot. on the SC's.. That swap is great for improved handling too...
Also new Supra front lower control arms and bushings also stiffened things alot. on the SC's.. That swap is great for improved handling too...
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