Brake dust TSB for is250 owners (TSB now released, attached) merged threads
05-03-07, 04:00 PM
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braking performance sacrificed for no squeeking (so far) and less dust.. when i think about it.. i dont really care but i would choose the performance over the dust! cause even though i downshift to slow down.. its not like me driving my brothers prelude or tl-s.. the car doesnt slow down quick enough so you gotta use your brakes so i think that sucks! lexus tried to help save gas.. so when you let go of the gas pedal.. it slows down very slow.. lol for people who like to let go of the gas pedal and rev it back up and let go and rev it back up.. and so forth.. i absolutely HATE it.. plus.. i would like to add on how crappy the throttle response is.. UGH... but anyways back on to the subject! less brake performance = no dust or squeeking..
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05-03-07, 08:56 PM
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i wasn't trying to be mean or anything. just sharing my point of views. i woudl choose performance over looks. my wheels are such a pain in the *** to clean espeically whe nits polished lip inside and outside the spokes.
05-03-07, 09:22 PM
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I think this actually might make sense. While many 250 owners are complaining of the dust, my 250 AWD barely gets any dust and hasn't squeaked yet. I don't have to clean them but I only clean them so they look new and I just do them like once every month and a half. So I guess if the new part is the AWD version of brake pads (supposedly), then I don't need to get it done (not like I was going to anyways)
05-03-07, 09:28 PM
#155
I think this actually might make sense. While many 250 owners are complaining of the dust, my 250 AWD barely gets any dust and hasn't squeaked yet. I don't have to clean them but I only clean them so they look new and I just do them like once every month and a half. So I guess if the new part is the AWD version of brake pads (supposedly), then I don't need to get it done (not like I was going to anyways)
still having problems with these damm dealers.....
05-04-07, 07:14 AM
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I think this actually might make sense. While many 250 owners are complaining of the dust, my 250 AWD barely gets any dust and hasn't squeaked yet. I don't have to clean them but I only clean them so they look new and I just do them like once every month and a half. So I guess if the new part is the AWD version of brake pads (supposedly), then I don't need to get it done (not like I was going to anyways)
05-04-07, 07:38 AM
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I think this actually might make sense. While many 250 owners are complaining of the dust, my 250 AWD barely gets any dust and hasn't squeaked yet. I don't have to clean them but I only clean them so they look new and I just do them like once every month and a half. So I guess if the new part is the AWD version of brake pads (supposedly), then I don't need to get it done (not like I was going to anyways)
BTW, just as an aside....does everyone who owns an IS live in California? :-D
05-04-07, 08:09 AM
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I think this actually might make sense. While many 250 owners are complaining of the dust, my 250 AWD barely gets any dust and hasn't squeaked yet. I don't have to clean them but I only clean them so they look new and I just do them like once every month and a half. So I guess if the new part is the AWD version of brake pads (supposedly), then I don't need to get it done (not like I was going to anyways)
This is right out of the book:
GSE21 is the IS350 and the GSE20 and 25 are RWD and AWD, respectively.
05-05-07, 10:56 AM
#160
Here's my 2 cents regarding this TSB bandwagon:
Not everyone that owns an ISx50 bought it for performance. Many are happy about this TSB because they don't have to deal with the brake dust as often as they used to. I can't stand dirty wheels especially after I just cleaned it. I wipe the front wheels every other day. Now, it will be once a week, hopefully longer. I doubt I will regret swapping because my car don’t stop like it used to. I also doubt the difference will be night and day. My driving style does not require a lot of heavy braking. Yes there will be times emergency braking will be needed. But looking back at my driving experience, I never needed a high performance braking system to avoid an accident.
So for those of you who don't care much about performance, IMO, this is a plus. And yes, my dealer said this is free.
Not everyone that owns an ISx50 bought it for performance. Many are happy about this TSB because they don't have to deal with the brake dust as often as they used to. I can't stand dirty wheels especially after I just cleaned it. I wipe the front wheels every other day. Now, it will be once a week, hopefully longer. I doubt I will regret swapping because my car don’t stop like it used to. I also doubt the difference will be night and day. My driving style does not require a lot of heavy braking. Yes there will be times emergency braking will be needed. But looking back at my driving experience, I never needed a high performance braking system to avoid an accident.
So for those of you who don't care much about performance, IMO, this is a plus. And yes, my dealer said this is free.
Should Lexus offer a TSB for a detuned 3.5L engine down to 250HP because I prefer more MPG and don't really need 306HP?
05-05-07, 11:14 AM
#161
There is no doubt that the newer pads fit certain users better. The question is, why do people think Lexus owes it to them to replace the part for free, when the original pads aren't actually defective? Isn't it perfectly reasonable for Lexus to offer the lower dust pads as an option the owner pays for?
Should Lexus offer a TSB for a detuned 3.5L engine down to 250HP because I prefer more MPG and don't really need 306HP?
Should Lexus offer a TSB for a detuned 3.5L engine down to 250HP because I prefer more MPG and don't really need 306HP?
I do have to give props to Lexus for listening to its customers. Not many car manufacturers will do this.
05-05-07, 12:48 PM
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I'm going in for my 20K service next week and I've been noticing my front wheels are black a couple days after a wash, so I'll be sure to bring this up with the service adviser. Thanks for the info!
05-05-07, 02:14 PM
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well had my appt. today at 3, when i got there, i had a copy of the tsb (which my service rep stated that he already knew about), they took my car; i then left because he said it would be about 2 hours. after about 20 minutes i get a phone call saying that they dont have the pads and they're pulling my car off the lift. my rep said that he would order the pads and call me when they arrive. don't u think he should've checked on this before letting me leave and putting my car on the lift??
05-05-07, 02:41 PM
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well had my appt. today at 3, when i got there, i had a copy of the tsb (which my service rep stated that he already knew about), they took my car; i then left because he said it would be about 2 hours. after about 20 minutes i get a phone call saying that they dont have the pads and they're pulling my car off the lift. my rep said that he would order the pads and call me when they arrive. don't u think he should've checked on this before letting me leave and putting my car on the lift??
05-05-07, 04:10 PM
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As for me, I don't feel Lexus owes it to me. If they decided to charge people, I still would've swapped. I would swap when the pads need replacement. I was even considering replacing them with EBC. Now, it's for free.
I do have to give props to Lexus for listening to its customers. Not many car manufacturers will do this.
I do have to give props to Lexus for listening to its customers. Not many car manufacturers will do this.
-Mike