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Old 07-06-07, 05:42 PM
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Default Calipers Are Seized? My Car Keeps On Locking All 4 Wheels....

SINCE I CHANGED MY CALIPERS, BRAKE PADS AND ROTORS(3WEEKSAGO) I VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH MY BRAKES...

when i start my car up everything is fine but after driving for about 15-20 minutes i can feel that calipers are slowly not opening as much .
basically all 4 wheels lock slowly...

my mechanic tried bleeding brakes which helped for about a day and now its back to 4 wheels being locked...

do i have pressure problems?
did anyone experience this brake problem?
where should i look for help? i dont really want to go to lexus...


abs light is not on.


btw when car sits over night (cold) everything seems ok next morning..all calipers unlock.. then i drive for 15-20 min and same thing happens....

someone give me some advice..how should we approach this problem

master brake cilinder?? maybe?
bad or twisted or pinched brake line? i dont think thats the case...

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restriction in a line somewhere... master cylinder will not cause this unless it's not retracting at all...

given that the calipers are all new, it's not a caliper problem, as bleeding them fixes it...

only thing it can really be is an obstruction or a kinked line.... brake pedal pressure exceeds 1000psi, so it will easily bypass almost any obstruction, whereas the seal in the caliper is the only thing responsible for retracting the pad, and it has to push fluid backwards - only a few psi pressure - that few psi may not bypass an obstruction or a kinked line like the 1000+ psi generated when you press the pedal... I assume the pedal feels normal?
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yeah pedal feel very normal-- i really hope its kinked line..
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Originally Posted by LEXuriouss
yeah pedal feel very normal-- i really hope its kinked line..
did this start just after the calipers were installed?

if so, almost definitely kinked line... is it all 4, or just one or two that are not releasing
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all 4 are stuck when it happens
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what provoked you to change all 4 calipers?
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what kind of calipers did u get? stock or LS, aftermarket? then what kind of rotors... stock, aftermarket?
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no real reason for changing the calipers , discs or the pads-- preventative maintenance...and now i got a real problemmmmmm

convoy: stock but all brand new
rotors slotted

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Old 07-10-07, 09:01 PM
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2 shops could not figure it out what the problem is...
im heading to lexus on thursday to spend big $....

**** i dont know
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after 2 long days my car s diagnose is: master cilinder is to be replaced.

it took 2 master mechanics to figure that out- supposely sc's with trac control are harder to work om or diagnose the problems.

.. so now my car is stuck at the lexus for the next 2 weeks-- they are just ordering the parts from US.
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they will bang you out, i have 9 master cylinders sitting on my shelf.
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Originally Posted by LEXuriouss
after 2 long days my car s diagnose is: master cilinder is to be replaced.

it took 2 master mechanics to figure that out- supposely sc's with trac control are harder to work om or diagnose the problems.

.. so now my car is stuck at the lexus for the next 2 weeks-- they are just ordering the parts from US.
thats an odd one - I don't think I've ever seen a master cylinder cause that issue... perhaps it was damaged while bleeding the brakes...
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is that possible? to damage master while bleeding brakes? how woudl that happen?
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Originally Posted by LEXuriouss
is that possible? to damage master while bleeding brakes? how woudl that happen?
most definitely... if the master cylinder is pushed too far forward, the seal will rub up against an area it's not used to being up against that may not be as smooth, also, bottoming it out can damage the seals inside as well... under normal braking, you can't physically push the cylinder in that far, but when bleeding brakes, you can push the pedal all the way to the floor, potentially damaging it... our guys at the shop here put a 2x4 underneath the brake pedal to prevent this from happening....
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