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Old 08-14-07, 07:13 PM
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I just bought a used 350 from a very cool guy. He did some nice things to it before i bought it. ONe of them was ibach pro lowering springs. Now bare with me because this is my third car in five years and the last was a 250. I dont know a lot about cars, i am a sportbike guy. anyways i digress. he lowered the car and as i understand it, when you do that you add a negative camber to the wheels, which pull the top of the wheel in a little and also pulls the wheels in as well? well to fix this he purchased some custome made spacers. very heavy duty ones. i will try to put pics on later. so this sets the wheels back out to be flush with the body. now the thing that i am curious about is that the camber is still there, meaning the tops of the wheels tilt in a little. which i dont need here in OKlahoma where there is no turns and it is always straight. i want there to be zero camber and want them to be back to stock vertical to avoid wearing the insides of the tires our in a third of the time. is there anything i need to put on the cars supsension or whatnot now that it is lowered to rectify this? sorry for the long post, i am a very long winded person. thanks so much guys for the help i konw you are all so good at giving. and i am also glad to have stepped up to the 350.

One more thing, is this the main IS website for 2gen. I am on My.is as well but seems much less populated.

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I understand that there is no camber adj on the 350. I wore out the inside of my right front Dunlop in 10k miles. Got new tires. Had the toe-out changed to toe-in, but only have about 1k on it, so far. The guy that aligned it didn't know why it wore out, since it was "within spec".
There's also a 'lexus owners club' site, but it has much less usage than this one.

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Old 08-15-07, 02:34 PM
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There are a lot of ways it can be "in spec" and still be jacked up. I had the camber and toe on my rear wheels of my Supra dead on spec according to the alignment rack and wore out a set of tires in 6k miles. They never got set to factory spec again.
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you can either put the original springs back in or you can get a camber kit to fix the camber. On any other car I would say keep the negative camber and just rotate your tires more often. But since you have a 350 you can't rotate tires.
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Camber kit? What camber kit? There are NONE for the ISx50.
Old 08-15-07, 08:23 PM
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so is it just standard for anyone that has their x50 lowered to have some negative camber to their tires. I mean i have unlimited tires for four years but i am sure that it doesnt cound if i am driving them on sidewalls.
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That doesnt count if you lowered your car. It voids that warranty. So if I were you go back and cancel it cause its worthless. I have it too but Im gonna cancel it next week when I get my rear view mirror issue resolved.
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If you wear out the inside edges of your tires with less than -2.0 degrees of camber, I'll give you a medal. I've been running -1.5 on my Supra forever without any ill effects and did the same on my Scion tC, again with no ill effects.
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What does the camber sit at when the car has been lowered about 1 1/4 inches? I am about to take mine in after I lower the front right 1/8 inches more. All I know is that my car corners pretty well with all the negative camber it has now, which is bad for my $1300 tires, hehe.
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actuley a negetive canber can add to driveing performance
Old 08-18-07, 03:21 PM
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You are kinda right, but sometimes it is too extreme. You really shouldn't go much more than 1.3 or 1.4 degrees. Toe and castor are more important though
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Correct me if Im wrong but doesnt the 250 have a camber kit?
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Originally Posted by fdelement
But since you have a 350 you can't rotate tires.
Correction: you can, unmount/remount left to right/right to left sides.
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Originally Posted by iSuxeL
Correct me if Im wrong but doesnt the 250 have a camber kit?
No kit yet.
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I mean stock...I thought I read somewhere that the 250 can adjust the camber.


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