Anybody gotten the Hotchkis sway bars......
02-20-08, 11:09 AM
#31
Your English lesson is both wrong and unnecessary. AFFECT is not exclusively for emotional change, and EFFECT is incorrect in the context you used. Your admonishment to "search first" was also unnecessary.
I'm seeing a lot more argumentative garbage than I am constructive criticism. Please THINK before you post. If there is no value add to what you are saying - if the point is to attack something someone said - move on to the next thread and stop destroying our sense of community.
I'm seeing a lot more argumentative garbage than I am constructive criticism. Please THINK before you post. If there is no value add to what you are saying - if the point is to attack something someone said - move on to the next thread and stop destroying our sense of community.
02-20-08, 12:17 PM
#34
Tech Info Resource
iTrader: (2)
English lesson from Dictionary.com
Answer to question:
The ride is not affected by swaybars. Handling is. They reduce body roll while turning and can alter the balance of front and rear traction while turning.
Affect:
1. To have an influence on or effect a change in: Inflation affects the buying power of the dollar.
2. To act on the emotions of; touch or move.
3. To attack or infect, as a disease: Rheumatic fever can affect the heart.
affect. (n.d.). The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Retrieved February 20, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/affect
Effect:
1. Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
2. The power to produce an outcome or achieve a result; influence: The drug had an immediate effect on the pain. The government's action had no effect on the trade imbalance.
3. A scientific law, hypothesis, or phenomenon: the photovoltaic effect.
4. Advantage; avail: used her words to great effect in influencing the jury.
5. The condition of being in full force or execution: a new regulation that goes into effect tomorrow.
6.
1. Something that produces a specific impression or supports a general design or intention: The lighting effects emphasized the harsh atmosphere of the drama.
2. A particular impression: large windows that gave an effect of spaciousness.
3. Production of a desired impression: spent lavishly on dinner just for effect.
7. The basic or general meaning; import: He said he was greatly worried, or words to that effect.
8. effects Movable belongings; goods.
effect. (n.d.). The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Retrieved February 20, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/effect
1. To have an influence on or effect a change in: Inflation affects the buying power of the dollar.
2. To act on the emotions of; touch or move.
3. To attack or infect, as a disease: Rheumatic fever can affect the heart.
affect. (n.d.). The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Retrieved February 20, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/affect
Effect:
1. Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
2. The power to produce an outcome or achieve a result; influence: The drug had an immediate effect on the pain. The government's action had no effect on the trade imbalance.
3. A scientific law, hypothesis, or phenomenon: the photovoltaic effect.
4. Advantage; avail: used her words to great effect in influencing the jury.
5. The condition of being in full force or execution: a new regulation that goes into effect tomorrow.
6.
1. Something that produces a specific impression or supports a general design or intention: The lighting effects emphasized the harsh atmosphere of the drama.
2. A particular impression: large windows that gave an effect of spaciousness.
3. Production of a desired impression: spent lavishly on dinner just for effect.
7. The basic or general meaning; import: He said he was greatly worried, or words to that effect.
8. effects Movable belongings; goods.
effect. (n.d.). The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Retrieved February 20, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/effect
The ride is not affected by swaybars. Handling is. They reduce body roll while turning and can alter the balance of front and rear traction while turning.
02-20-08, 09:17 PM
#35
i started another thread earlier to avoid thread hijacking this one
02-21-08, 10:25 AM
#36
anybody else here has Hotchkis Swaybars has the same problem?
if so, i might want to stay away from them. maybe wait for the F-Sport or just get Eibach.
btw, anybody got a pic of a 2IS with Hotchkis lowering springs install?
if so, i might want to stay away from them. maybe wait for the F-Sport or just get Eibach.
btw, anybody got a pic of a 2IS with Hotchkis lowering springs install?
02-21-08, 05:05 PM
#37
Lexus Test Driver
i think the sway bars are great. handling is a lot better than before. maybe that's in part to the new tires but still. no problems installing the bars for me...
02-21-08, 09:51 PM
#38
English lesson from Dictionary.com
Effect:
1. Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
Answer to question:
The ride is not affected by swaybars. Handling is. They reduce body roll while turning and can alter the balance of front and rear traction while turning.
Effect:
1. Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result.
Answer to question:
The ride is not affected by swaybars. Handling is. They reduce body roll while turning and can alter the balance of front and rear traction while turning.
02-21-08, 10:40 PM
#39
Tech Info Resource
iTrader: (2)
You still missed it. Effect is a verb in that context.
Swaybars themselves do not change ride quality unless the bushings are not properly lubricated. Failing to grease the bushings will effect a change in ride quality, and ride quality will be negatively affected. So it sounds like your install was not good. Ideally swaybars should be mounted in needle bearings, but it isn't practical for street vehicles.
Swaybars themselves do not change ride quality unless the bushings are not properly lubricated. Failing to grease the bushings will effect a change in ride quality, and ride quality will be negatively affected. So it sounds like your install was not good. Ideally swaybars should be mounted in needle bearings, but it isn't practical for street vehicles.
02-21-08, 11:12 PM
#40
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Well they can affect ride if only one wheel is hitting the bump to cause suspension movement. The bar will lift the other wheel as well causing the compression to be more linear (firmer as it compressed). Now if both wheels on each side are being compressed at the same time then no, it can't affect ride.
So if you hit dips on difference in ride, If you hit a big bump with one tire, it may cause it to be a little firmer.
So if you hit dips on difference in ride, If you hit a big bump with one tire, it may cause it to be a little firmer.
03-10-08, 03:48 PM
#41
Lexus Test Driver
So what's the consensus regarding these sways. There have been folks who say they don't fit and some that say it fit perfectly. Anyone else want to report on their sway bars?
03-11-08, 03:27 AM
#42
03-11-08, 12:22 PM
#43
Lexus Test Driver
I hope so but the thing is looks like nobody is reporting back about these sways since they were supposed to have come out. I think you were the only one that attempted an install and it didn't fit, but yours is a non US spec car.
You would think with all the people who are on here complaining about the handling of the IS and how Hotchkis makes the best stuff out there that you'd see more people trying to install them.
I guess like me nobody here want's to be the first in case it doesn't fit as in your case. Oh well...
You would think with all the people who are on here complaining about the handling of the IS and how Hotchkis makes the best stuff out there that you'd see more people trying to install them.
I guess like me nobody here want's to be the first in case it doesn't fit as in your case. Oh well...
03-11-08, 12:24 PM
#44
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
They fit fine on every IS I have ever seen them installed on. I don't have them because I don't have the funds. That and I am done modding my car. The next thing I do to my car is sell it, lol.
03-11-08, 12:46 PM
#45
Lexus Test Driver
^okay so you've seen lots of other IS's that have the hotchkis sways on. I just wanted a confirmation that these fit on the USDM IS. So what have those folks that got them installed been saying? Any good? Still lots of roll? etc.. thanks