spring VS coilover..money wi$e need some thought..
06-30-08, 09:15 PM
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In japan the driver sits on the right side, so the weight from the driver will eventually makes it a even drop. But when they made the USDM models they didnt change the design so the car still leans to the left. It makes sense to me... but might not be the real answer
06-30-08, 09:41 PM
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if you want to save money, get springs and call it a day. on the other hand if you have a little more cheddar to spend pick up a set of sway bars while your at it; it's a night and day difference when you add a set of sways. i on the other hand went with tanabe and hotchkis sways (like i said night and day couldn't be happier). 
06-30-08, 09:51 PM
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I heard this from RTIS250 and it makes sense.
In japan the driver sits on the right side, so the weight from the driver will eventually makes it a even drop. But when they made the USDM models they didnt change the design so the car still leans to the left. It makes sense to me... but might not be the real answer
In japan the driver sits on the right side, so the weight from the driver will eventually makes it a even drop. But when they made the USDM models they didnt change the design so the car still leans to the left. It makes sense to me... but might not be the real answer
take the battery out, leave the car overnight, and it evens out, at least mine did the one time i had to do that
stock shocks are fine for most MILD lowering applications...eibach will be fine, soft "super low" lowering springs that give 1.75-2"+ are the ones that tend to prematurely kills oem shocks...
06-30-08, 10:16 PM
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06-30-08, 11:21 PM
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BTW The 2IS was introduced into the world as a LHD, then RHD variants showed up shortly after. Same for the IS-F, the 3GS and etc. Mind you Lexus was an American idea, all the concepts are usually geared first for the US.
07-01-08, 03:04 AM
#22
IF your not sure..
You should definitely come out to some meets.
And decide what type of drop you are looking for.
Do you want your drop decided for you (springs)?
Or do you want to customize the drop to your specifics (coils)?
It's all about give and take
BTW, if you want to see a slammed car, come out to that torrence meet, I wanna go this week
You should definitely come out to some meets.
And decide what type of drop you are looking for.
Do you want your drop decided for you (springs)?
Or do you want to customize the drop to your specifics (coils)?
It's all about give and take
BTW, if you want to see a slammed car, come out to that torrence meet, I wanna go this week
07-01-08, 03:06 AM
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Oh BTW, you should come to our South Bay meet this Thursday 7/3 in Long Beach, we have several 2IS here with modded suspension, we can show you how they differ from each other.
Tanabe Sustec Pro Five Coilovers
Tein CS Coilovers
Eibach w/ OEM Shocks
I don't know what the rest have....
Tanabe Sustec Pro Five Coilovers
Tein CS Coilovers
Eibach w/ OEM Shocks
I don't know what the rest have....
07-01-08, 09:46 AM
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my $0.02 on the coilovers vs. springs debate.
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if you don't make adjustments on a fairly regular basis - or even at all, then doesn't it defeat the purpose of getting coilovers? after all, the purpose of going with coilovers is so you can have a range of adjustability that lowering springs don't have. but if you don't change ride height or damper settings, then doesn't that defeat the purpose of having coilovers (other than bragging rights)?
again, i'm not an anti-advocate of coilovers. however, i don't believe that someone should get coilovers for the sake of having them and not taking advantage of their functionality.
again, i'm not an anti-advocate of coilovers. however, i don't believe that someone should get coilovers for the sake of having them and not taking advantage of their functionality.
07-01-08, 11:01 AM
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I TOTALLY MADE UP MY MIND... IM GOING TO STICK WITH THE SPRING...
07-01-08, 02:10 PM
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LOL... did you sign up? I didn't see you on the list. Where do you live?
Back to the topic... I think most ppl who ask for others opinion about getting springs or coilovers are leaning towards getting just the springs. They want to have coilovers but afraid of wasting too much money on suspension and not fully utilize coilover's adjustability. More than 50% of the ppl will recommend getting springs only because that's what they have.
I put Tein S-Tech springs on my IS300 when it had 35k miles, I sold the car at 55k miles, after a few month the guy who bought my car called me and told me that his shocks are gone, at around 58k. I also had experience with putting lowering springs on OEM shocks to my E36 M3, SC400, Mazda MX6, and my friend's E46 325i, and they all ended up with new shocks after a certain period of time. I'm not interested in getting into the debate of which setup is better, just want to share my experience with everyone. If I post a thread about "springs vs coilover" on my Audi S4 forum, I'll probably be flamed to death
Back to the topic... I think most ppl who ask for others opinion about getting springs or coilovers are leaning towards getting just the springs. They want to have coilovers but afraid of wasting too much money on suspension and not fully utilize coilover's adjustability. More than 50% of the ppl will recommend getting springs only because that's what they have.
I put Tein S-Tech springs on my IS300 when it had 35k miles, I sold the car at 55k miles, after a few month the guy who bought my car called me and told me that his shocks are gone, at around 58k. I also had experience with putting lowering springs on OEM shocks to my E36 M3, SC400, Mazda MX6, and my friend's E46 325i, and they all ended up with new shocks after a certain period of time. I'm not interested in getting into the debate of which setup is better, just want to share my experience with everyone. If I post a thread about "springs vs coilover" on my Audi S4 forum, I'll probably be flamed to death
07-01-08, 02:33 PM
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jics coilovers have adjustable camber!
besides the spring rates on the springs out for our car are not that bad so you can use your oem shocks.. if you want to be safe get the F sport setup.. but IMO coilovers FTW.. i have springs and they stink lol
as for tire wear your SOL.. the tires on stock suspension (potenzas, turanzas) give out at like 15-20k anywayss.. so imagin when you lower the car guess how much money your gonna spend on tires
besides the spring rates on the springs out for our car are not that bad so you can use your oem shocks.. if you want to be safe get the F sport setup.. but IMO coilovers FTW.. i have springs and they stink lol
as for tire wear your SOL.. the tires on stock suspension (potenzas, turanzas) give out at like 15-20k anywayss.. so imagin when you lower the car guess how much money your gonna spend on tires
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07-01-08, 03:43 PM
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07-10-08, 11:14 PM
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[QUOTE=llamaboiz;3645135]we lean cuz were just a bunch of fat americans and when you drive solo alot you wear out that side of the shocks
Thats the issue. you have chronic weight weoght distribution asymmetry that creates more settling in the springs on the drivers side. The bigger you are the more asymmetry you will have. I am 6'5" and 300lbs. I have my 3GS dropped on tein h techs and I have the lean as well. I am getting coilovers this week to resolve the problem. Another cheaper option would be to simply have the shop rotate the springs right to left and BOOM you have an even drop and saved alot of money. The added advantage for the coilovers is to be able to add some handling performance as well as to be able to custom set the drop.
Thats the issue. you have chronic weight weoght distribution asymmetry that creates more settling in the springs on the drivers side. The bigger you are the more asymmetry you will have. I am 6'5" and 300lbs. I have my 3GS dropped on tein h techs and I have the lean as well. I am getting coilovers this week to resolve the problem. Another cheaper option would be to simply have the shop rotate the springs right to left and BOOM you have an even drop and saved alot of money. The added advantage for the coilovers is to be able to add some handling performance as well as to be able to custom set the drop.
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