View Poll Results: which setup would you go with?
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time for new brake pads!
10-14-08, 11:11 AM
#1
time for new brake pads!
ok im fixing to be putting new pads/rotors on plus my g-stop kit i bought on here from UGKkllr (thanks again) but let me ask opinions. im running the factory calipers (probably will do a BBK in a few years or do the supra caliper swap although i still need info on what is required to do the supra rear swap. anyways, i will be running rotora slotted/crossdrilled rotors on the front and rear (i think) or should i just go for slotted? or just crossdrilled? heres also a ? i knwo the oem pads are ceramic do the aftermarket ones have to be? which one would you choose between........... rotora or project mu pads? please vote for a rotor AND a pad thanks
Last edited by sakataj; 10-14-08 at 11:41 AM.
10-14-08, 11:33 AM
#2
First off, what's the reasoning for spending so much on slotted/cross drilled rotors now when you're going with a BBK setup later on? Kind of a waste when they dont really benefit you, plus it looks funny having OEM-sized slotted/drilled rotors. Honestly, upgrade the pads for now.
You can go with any pads you like. It doesn't have to be ceramic. Many Toyota/Lexus vehicles still use semi-metallic pads! I'd get some Hawks or Axxis pads, and then call it a day.
Now if you want me to sugarcoat things and tell you to go with cross-drilled/slotted rotors instead, I can do that
I'd just hate to see you spend money on something that will net you very little gains, if any at all..especially when you're going to upgrade down the line.
You can go with any pads you like. It doesn't have to be ceramic. Many Toyota/Lexus vehicles still use semi-metallic pads! I'd get some Hawks or Axxis pads, and then call it a day.
Now if you want me to sugarcoat things and tell you to go with cross-drilled/slotted rotors instead, I can do that
I'd just hate to see you spend money on something that will net you very little gains, if any at all..especially when you're going to upgrade down the line.
10-14-08, 11:39 AM
#3
the reason im replacing the rotors is cause its time for them to be replaced the front ones to low to be turned (well rears are fine but u know if im replacing one i would like the other to match and knock out 2 birds with one stone)........im not gonna do a BBK for a few years IF i even do one! no i just want a honest opinion of what people think no sugarcoated needed. actually asked that as i heard slotted/driller rotors will eat pads like there is no business and i was wondering if it would be better to do slotted? drilled? or slotted and drilled? and which brand of pads people prefer!
10-14-08, 11:49 AM
#4
Cheaper cross-drilled rotors will tend to lose its strength over a solid piece. Plus you lose a lot of mass within the rotor, and that's one thing you need in a brake system (up to a certain point). Slotted rotors are the less of the two evils so I'd go with that if you must have some sort of design.
10-14-08, 11:55 AM
#5
haha not about a "design" i can get oem blanks for 110 each so 220 total and i can get ROTORA crossdrilled/slotted for like 283 or ROTORA slotted for like 235 or ROTORA drilled for like 240. which brand of pad do you think or have you used either?
10-14-08, 05:05 PM
#7
iModerate
I have some slotted and dimpled rotors on my Durango and they do make a "Whoosh whoosh whoosh" when I brake. Not too bad on that truck but i do not know if i would want them on the Lexus.On a side note. I had a rotor overheating/warping issue on the Durango due to the small brakes and the rotors definitely fixed it.
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10-14-08, 07:22 PM
#8
For what it's worth, I have slotted Rotora rotors and am amazed how well they enhance stopping power. Mind you, I'm driving in the city most of the time with 10-15 minutes of highway stretch, not racing, but it's incredible the stopping power I have.
I'm going to have to disagree with GSteg, you will see significant gains. I do however have to add to his comment, you will experience some noise. I hear a metallic scraping when I take hard turn, kind of like lightly touching a metal fan with a playing card so do keep that in mind.
With regards to "having a design" to your rotors, I get where the guys on here with BBK are coming from. Slotted and drilled rotors do have a nice show but also they also work well. Not as well as a BBK, but BBK isn't for everyone.
Take a look next time you see a high HP Mercedes, they all have drilled front and plan rear rotors. There has got to be a reason.
IMO GO FOR IT (it is only a few extra dollars!)
I'm going to have to disagree with GSteg, you will see significant gains. I do however have to add to his comment, you will experience some noise. I hear a metallic scraping when I take hard turn, kind of like lightly touching a metal fan with a playing card so do keep that in mind.
With regards to "having a design" to your rotors, I get where the guys on here with BBK are coming from. Slotted and drilled rotors do have a nice show but also they also work well. Not as well as a BBK, but BBK isn't for everyone.
Take a look next time you see a high HP Mercedes, they all have drilled front and plan rear rotors. There has got to be a reason.
IMO GO FOR IT (it is only a few extra dollars!)
10-14-08, 07:52 PM
#9
Zippy what pads were you running with OEM rotors and what are you running now? Rotors have no bearing on stopping distance because ultimately, you're limited to tires, weight, and weight distribution. What gains are you getting out of the new rotors? I ask that because most guys, including me who have some sort of BBKs, know for a fact that our stopping distance is vitually the same as OEM. What changes is fading performance, but that can be easily enhanced with better pads instead of rotors. But since the rotoras aren't that much more than OEM, minus whale go with it to try them out. 
10-14-08, 08:09 PM
#10
I'm running Rotora slotted rotors with Axxis pads.
My perception is that they stop much better than OEM. They feel like they have more initial grip and almost no fad, but also keep in mind I'm not pressing them that hard. In general with OEM I can think of plenty of times when I had to mash pretty hard to get the car to stop, with this set up that is no longer a fact.
The reality is that I might not have the stopping power I think I do but there is no denying, they do "feel" better than OEM.
I think we might be comparing differences like those I just found on www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=86). My set-up would be comsidered Performance/Street while your set up might be Autocross/Track, regardless, IMO sakataj will see performance increases with an upgrade in pads and slotted and/or drilled rotors but the over all gain is not in comparison to BBK.
He said "im fixing to be"......so country!!!
My perception is that they stop much better than OEM. They feel like they have more initial grip and almost no fad, but also keep in mind I'm not pressing them that hard. In general with OEM I can think of plenty of times when I had to mash pretty hard to get the car to stop, with this set up that is no longer a fact.
The reality is that I might not have the stopping power I think I do but there is no denying, they do "feel" better than OEM.
I think we might be comparing differences like those I just found on www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=86). My set-up would be comsidered Performance/Street while your set up might be Autocross/Track, regardless, IMO sakataj will see performance increases with an upgrade in pads and slotted and/or drilled rotors but the over all gain is not in comparison to BBK.
He said "im fixing to be"......so country!!!
10-14-08, 08:25 PM
#11
It's the pads that is making a difference in your setup 
I had a talk with crispy about this because he went from OEM to slotted/drilled rotors and he told me there was no difference in performance and feel. Upgraded pads will greatly affect the fading and bite relative to OEM setup. If anyone is looking for better performance, definitely look into pads first. If fading still occurs, then get a BBK setup, LOL. Although the slotted/drilled design sure does look good!!
I had a talk with crispy about this because he went from OEM to slotted/drilled rotors and he told me there was no difference in performance and feel. Upgraded pads will greatly affect the fading and bite relative to OEM setup. If anyone is looking for better performance, definitely look into pads first. If fading still occurs, then get a BBK setup, LOL. Although the slotted/drilled design sure does look good!!
10-14-08, 08:31 PM
#13
I am running Hawk pads and slotted brembo rotors. There is a little noise associated with them but you can't hear it unless you have all the windows rolled down and are trying to pick up the sound. I have been thinking about selling them actually. I love the hawk pads though.
10-14-08, 08:51 PM
#14
Lexus Test Driver
there is no benefit from getting cross drilled & slotted rotors on a street car. all you're going to do is eat your pads faster and you'll have to watch for cracks in your rotors around the drilled areas.
