Official F-sport Sway Bar Thread!
12-02-12, 11:51 AM
#798
-You'll notice bumps/pot holes/uneven roads a little more
-Car will pull harder if the road isn't even.
I haven't driven on rough roads yet, but I did notice in one spot my car did pull a little harder than it usually does due to the road.
12-23-12, 08:26 PM
#801
Just installed my F-Sport Sway bar today. And man, it is a pain in the ****. I have the 2011 and the brackets are different as someone else noted in the other thread. You have to cut out the rubber for the bracket because it is glued on...
12-24-12, 09:12 AM
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Installed both Front and Rear sways on my AWD today. The front sway bar was a hassle to install (need to lower the subframe).
The cornering is fantastic now!
The cornering is fantastic now!
12-27-12, 03:03 PM
#803
Since this is an F-Sport Mod thread.
I Test drove the IS250 Test car that has all the F-Sport upgrades at the Lexus dealer
1. Most CL member say the F-sport shocks and spring combo is too hard/harsh, but it wasn't. I purposely drove over potholes dips, and bumps. goes over all those smoothly, no rattles or jolts from the suspension.
2. You can definitely feel that it drives flat on high speed turns. there is one right turn going to the dealer that i tried with my car and my right leg went up because of the body roll.
3. Last the Big brakes which I forgot it had(I was paying attention to the ride quality from the springs and shocks) slows down faster. I didn't do any high speed stops. I just stopped slowly and smoothly on a stoplight and noticed how early and with little pressure stops the car.
I Test drove the IS250 Test car that has all the F-Sport upgrades at the Lexus dealer
1. Most CL member say the F-sport shocks and spring combo is too hard/harsh, but it wasn't. I purposely drove over potholes dips, and bumps. goes over all those smoothly, no rattles or jolts from the suspension.
2. You can definitely feel that it drives flat on high speed turns. there is one right turn going to the dealer that i tried with my car and my right leg went up because of the body roll.
3. Last the Big brakes which I forgot it had(I was paying attention to the ride quality from the springs and shocks) slows down faster. I didn't do any high speed stops. I just stopped slowly and smoothly on a stoplight and noticed how early and with little pressure stops the car.
Last edited by Joshohoho; 12-27-12 at 03:08 PM.
12-28-12, 06:14 AM
#804
You'll need to clarify this a bit-
lexus sells an "F-sport" 250... but it contains no actual F-sport parts. It mostly recycles the old "sport" (not F-sport) suspension from the 06-10 sport package. It doesn't use F-sport springs, shocks, sways, brakes, etc.
Some individual dealers take an otherwise stock car and slap on a lot of F-sport aftermarket parts though.
Item 1 from your list makes more sense if you drove the first type of car... item 2 more sense if you drove the second....
Item 3- bigger brakes don't stop a car any shorter, that's physically impossible. It's possible they stopped the car with less brake pedal effort in non-full stops of course, there's lots of ways to do that, but in a full stop the car would stop in exactly the same distance it did on stock brakes.
12-28-12, 06:41 AM
#805
You'll need to clarify this a bit-
lexus sells an "F-sport" 250... but it contains no actual F-sport parts. It mostly recycles the old "sport" (not F-sport) suspension from the 06-10 sport package. It doesn't use F-sport springs, shocks, sways, brakes, etc.
Some individual dealers take an otherwise stock car and slap on a lot of F-sport aftermarket parts though.
Item 1 from your list makes more sense if you drove the first type of car... item 2 more sense if you drove the second....
Item 3- bigger brakes don't stop a car any shorter, that's physically impossible. It's possible they stopped the car with less brake pedal effort in non-full stops of course, there's lots of ways to do that, but in a full stop the car would stop in exactly the same distance it did on stock brakes.
lexus sells an "F-sport" 250... but it contains no actual F-sport parts. It mostly recycles the old "sport" (not F-sport) suspension from the 06-10 sport package. It doesn't use F-sport springs, shocks, sways, brakes, etc.
Some individual dealers take an otherwise stock car and slap on a lot of F-sport aftermarket parts though.
Item 1 from your list makes more sense if you drove the first type of car... item 2 more sense if you drove the second....
Item 3- bigger brakes don't stop a car any shorter, that's physically impossible. It's possible they stopped the car with less brake pedal effort in non-full stops of course, there's lots of ways to do that, but in a full stop the car would stop in exactly the same distance it did on stock brakes.
i didnt say an F-sport trim.
about item 3 you're not making any sense. i suggest you read it again. Did I mention anything about stopping shorter? No.
12-28-12, 10:37 AM
#806
That you know the difference is excellent, but there's literally dozens of threads where people post while clearly not knowing the difference between those two things...
including many many people thinking that when they bought their F-sport 250/350 they were getting the F-sport sway bars and F-sport springs and shocks, which they aren't. Hence why I asked you to clarify which you were meaning.
Right, that's why I said "It's possible they stopped the car with less brake pedal effort in non-full stops of course" but they couldn't have "slowed you down faster" than the stock brakes in general.
Slowed you down faster being the words you used.
Really more to avoid others thinking the F-sport brakes did anything useful in normal use other than look good and eat through pads faster than the stock brakes.
Last edited by Kurtz; 12-28-12 at 10:41 AM.
01-03-13, 11:43 PM
#808
01-04-13, 06:44 AM
#809
My stock brakes in the 350 are so tight, strong and responsive that I every time I REALLY have to use them I wonder how much more people need. They're by far and wide the best brakes that I've ever felt in any car. F-Sport big brake upgrades are a complete waste of money to me unless you've turned it into nothing but a track car.
01-04-13, 09:46 AM
#810
It's physically impossible for them to ever stop you shorter than the stock brakes will in such use.
Now, if you only can push the brake pedal 5% of the way down, they might stop you shorter than the stock brakes with 5% brake pedal... but unless there's something seriously wrong with your leg there's no reason to drive that way.
Both the stock system, and the most expensive BBK you can buy, have the same minimum stopping distance when you fully engage the brakes.
Just as physics requires them to.
If you want to stop any shorter you need to upgrade the tires, not the brakes.