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Old 01-07-09, 09:28 PM
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i was reading about four wheel steering on wiki and it says the soarers are equipped with them. is this true or just an error? does my sc3 have it? id jack up my car and look if it wasnt for the snow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steerin...wheel_steering
Old 01-07-09, 09:47 PM
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No our cars aren't equipped with them, we have the equivalent of the JZZ31 and the UZZ30 models.
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but do soarers really have four wheel steering? can these components be swapped onto an sc3?
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soarers, some of them, do come with four wheel steering...but Lexus cars were never fitted with any despite being the more 'elite' brand...we never got a turbo'ed engine or rear windshield wiper either
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just UZZ32 had that feature but there is no way of finding one of those!
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Originally Posted by Kaydee
soarers, some of them, do come with four wheel steering...but Lexus cars were never fitted with any despite being the more 'elite' brand...we never got a turbo'ed engine or rear windshield wiper either
Not too bitter over the rear wiper, but the turbo engine would have been a major plus.
Old 01-07-09, 11:33 PM
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hehe I don't really care about the turbo so long as the engine produces more power
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Originally Posted by Kaydee
hehe I don't really care about the turbo so long as the engine produces more power
N/A FTW!!!
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Originally Posted by topdog849
but do soarers really have four wheel steering?
Only 873 Soarer UZZ-32 Activ Suspensjon 4WS made from 1991 to 1996.
No other 4WS models!

J have one

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Only UZZ32 Soarers had 4 wheel steer. Its similar to HICAS and what Honda Preludes have in Australia. Good for the hills but not good when you want to drift or loose the back end. Also fair few UZZ32's for sale in Australia currently going for pretty damn cheap considering less than 600 were made.

Also funny that TRD Power posted that clip, thats actually my firend ad we made Italian Spiderman and im in a few of the episodes :-)
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I wonder what the cost would be to order the components needed for an active susp/ 4ws upgrade from Toyota/a dealership in Japan. Shipping and installation would probably be pricey, but it would be something nice and unique.
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Everything from Toyota is expensive, even the smallest things so i would imagine that it would be well into the thousands if not cost more than a stock SC
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hicas from nissan was a bad system that was hydraulic. it used a different power steering pump with two rotors, another rack in the rear, and a ton of lines running the length of the car.

honda prelude was a mechanical system in the early models. not sure of the later ones.

trust me you do not want to do a 4 wheel steer on any car. its gives a car a very artificial and quite frankly a crappy feel. its a waste of time to do it and definitely a waste of money and actually works counter productively for a performance car.
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Yeah i like predictability, like an LSD i know when it steps out what it will do. With 4 wheel steer if the rear starts coming out and you counter steer its very difficult to catch unless you have the presence of mind to brake rather than steer out of it. Only good thing about 4 wheel steer is the reduced turning circle.
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Four wheel steering is stupid, you don't want it.


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