BBK Kits for upgrade
#1
BBK Kits for upgrade
I'm interest about find some BBK Kits for my IS250 RWD 2008. Now, I actually find 3 choice.
1. IS350 BBK Kits (Only Front)
2. ISF Brembo BBK Kits (Front & Rear)
3. F-Sport BBK Kits (Front & Rear)
My prefer are better repeat duty brake (For some meeting at circuit) and Awesome look for public. The things that I don't know are about after purchase maintainance cost like Replacement Rotor and Replacement Brake Pads.
I need your opinion please.
Which one is better?
1. IS350 BBK Kits (Only Front)
2. ISF Brembo BBK Kits (Front & Rear)
3. F-Sport BBK Kits (Front & Rear)
My prefer are better repeat duty brake (For some meeting at circuit) and Awesome look for public. The things that I don't know are about after purchase maintainance cost like Replacement Rotor and Replacement Brake Pads.
I need your opinion please.
Which one is better?
#2
Out of all those listed.
Performance aside, one would say the IS350 BBK will be the cheapest, maintenance wise.
It would take some time to argue against that, so I wont.
Performance wise, people will tell you, that no aftermarket kit or upgrade kit will decrease your stopping distance, since they all have the power to engage ABS, for street driving or normal daily driving. Which, for the most part can be true (for your first 60-0 panic stop).
Now, for the race track or aggressive canyon mountain road driving. You will notice a big difference, especially if you have 250 brakes.
If you have the money price + performance, you cant go wrong with F-sport
If you want your car more for show+track, get the Brembo kit, but Its going to cost you, and the extra cost wont add up with more effective results. However, StopTech makes direct fit replacement rotors for that Brembo kit, so in theory your cost will be the same (only because you are using StopTech parts now haha )
I am not bashing Brembo, I love Brembo, I have a Brembo caliper lying next to me at all times , but their replacement cost are high, that's the only issue I have with them.
Sounds, like you should go with Brembo.
My personal choice, for sexiest looking calipers?
12 piston gold endless BBK, with true two piece floating rotor, hands down.
You got 12-grand to spare?
I know my StopTech calipers are ugly but they work great haha.!
Performance aside, one would say the IS350 BBK will be the cheapest, maintenance wise.
It would take some time to argue against that, so I wont.
Performance wise, people will tell you, that no aftermarket kit or upgrade kit will decrease your stopping distance, since they all have the power to engage ABS, for street driving or normal daily driving. Which, for the most part can be true (for your first 60-0 panic stop).
Now, for the race track or aggressive canyon mountain road driving. You will notice a big difference, especially if you have 250 brakes.
If you have the money price + performance, you cant go wrong with F-sport
If you want your car more for show+track, get the Brembo kit, but Its going to cost you, and the extra cost wont add up with more effective results. However, StopTech makes direct fit replacement rotors for that Brembo kit, so in theory your cost will be the same (only because you are using StopTech parts now haha )
I am not bashing Brembo, I love Brembo, I have a Brembo caliper lying next to me at all times , but their replacement cost are high, that's the only issue I have with them.
My prefer are better repeat duty brake (For some meeting at circuit) and Awesome look for public.
My personal choice, for sexiest looking calipers?
12 piston gold endless BBK, with true two piece floating rotor, hands down.
You got 12-grand to spare?
I know my StopTech calipers are ugly but they work great haha.!
Last edited by t0e; 02-19-09 at 04:37 PM.
#3
Paul is spot on with his "brake-down" of the kits.
The OEM IS350 BBK will be by FAR the cheapest (and easiest) to maintain.
Brembo is more expensive than StopTech, across the board - but it's Brembo... What's interesting to note is that most every other brake component manufacturer makes things that are compatible with the Brembo GT kits, so you'll have some choices.
Regarding the rotors, it's important to note that ONLY THE FRICTION RINGS are compatible with the Brembo GT kit - the mounting bells (hats) are completely different sizes, use different fasteners, and call for different specifications when assembling the floating rotor.
Good luck.
Javier
The OEM IS350 BBK will be by FAR the cheapest (and easiest) to maintain.
Brembo is more expensive than StopTech, across the board - but it's Brembo... What's interesting to note is that most every other brake component manufacturer makes things that are compatible with the Brembo GT kits, so you'll have some choices.
Regarding the rotors, it's important to note that ONLY THE FRICTION RINGS are compatible with the Brembo GT kit - the mounting bells (hats) are completely different sizes, use different fasteners, and call for different specifications when assembling the floating rotor.
Good luck.
Javier
#5
Hey guys nice input.. quick question I was actually thinking about going with F-sport front and rear and the dealerships telling me it wont fit and it will only fit with the F wheels. Is that true?
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Javier
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#11
Does Brembo BBK Kits are drop in? I don't want to modify the hub for install.
I see someone who had tried both Brembo and Stoptech comment that Brembo will change the feeling of brake pedal to be hardly and more noise at low speed (Low temperature) but Stoptech will feeling like oem. They say Stoptech is suitible for street use with some track and Brembo will suitable more for track. So, How about your opinion? It's depend on pads or rotor?
I know that F-Sport BBK was made by Stoptech.
I see someone who had tried both Brembo and Stoptech comment that Brembo will change the feeling of brake pedal to be hardly and more noise at low speed (Low temperature) but Stoptech will feeling like oem. They say Stoptech is suitible for street use with some track and Brembo will suitable more for track. So, How about your opinion? It's depend on pads or rotor?
I know that F-Sport BBK was made by Stoptech.
#12
What is the price of Brembo BBK Kits?
The best price for F-Sport BBK was around $4,100. Has anyone can get cheaper?
The best price for F-Sport BBK was around $4,100. Has anyone can get cheaper?
Out of all those listed.
Performance aside, one would say the IS350 BBK will be the cheapest, maintenance wise.
It would take some time to argue against that, so I wont.
Performance wise, people will tell you, that no aftermarket kit or upgrade kit will decrease your stopping distance, since they all have the power to engage ABS, for street driving or normal daily driving. Which, for the most part can be true (for your first 60-0 panic stop).
Now, for the race track or aggressive canyon mountain road driving. You will notice a big difference, especially if you have 250 brakes.
If you have the money price + performance, you cant go wrong with F-sport
If you want your car more for show+track, get the Brembo kit, but Its going to cost you, and the extra cost wont add up with more effective results. However, StopTech makes direct fit replacement rotors for that Brembo kit, so in theory your cost will be the same (only because you are using StopTech parts now haha )
I am not bashing Brembo, I love Brembo, I have a Brembo caliper lying next to me at all times , but their replacement cost are high, that's the only issue I have with them.
Sounds, like you should go with Brembo.
My personal choice, for sexiest looking calipers?
12 piston gold endless BBK, with true two piece floating rotor, hands down.
You got 12-grand to spare?
I know my StopTech calipers are ugly but they work great haha.!
Performance aside, one would say the IS350 BBK will be the cheapest, maintenance wise.
It would take some time to argue against that, so I wont.
Performance wise, people will tell you, that no aftermarket kit or upgrade kit will decrease your stopping distance, since they all have the power to engage ABS, for street driving or normal daily driving. Which, for the most part can be true (for your first 60-0 panic stop).
Now, for the race track or aggressive canyon mountain road driving. You will notice a big difference, especially if you have 250 brakes.
If you have the money price + performance, you cant go wrong with F-sport
If you want your car more for show+track, get the Brembo kit, but Its going to cost you, and the extra cost wont add up with more effective results. However, StopTech makes direct fit replacement rotors for that Brembo kit, so in theory your cost will be the same (only because you are using StopTech parts now haha )
I am not bashing Brembo, I love Brembo, I have a Brembo caliper lying next to me at all times , but their replacement cost are high, that's the only issue I have with them.
Sounds, like you should go with Brembo.
My personal choice, for sexiest looking calipers?
12 piston gold endless BBK, with true two piece floating rotor, hands down.
You got 12-grand to spare?
I know my StopTech calipers are ugly but they work great haha.!
#13
I see someone who had tried both Brembo and Stoptech comment that Brembo will change the feeling of brake pedal to be hardly and more noise at low speed (Low temperature) but Stoptech will feeling like oem. They say Stoptech is suitible for street use with some track and Brembo will suitable more for track. So, How about your opinion? It's depend on pads or rotor?
I know that F-Sport BBK was made by Stoptech.
I know that F-Sport BBK was made by Stoptech.
Your pads will have more to do with which setup is appropriate for street/track use. Both of the kits will come with street pads, which should ideally be swapped to track pads when you plan on doing any track days. Your rotor will also play a factor if you plan on any track time. I would never use a drilled disc for any significant track use. Period.
Javier
#14
I think F-Sport BBK price was suitable but they come with drill rotor. Will these drill rotor crack easily? My group meeting may set up around quarterly. So, the main usage will belong to everyday on street and some track on long weekend.
Will I go wrong with F-Sport? What are the advantage and disadvantage between drill , slot and drill+slot?
Will I go wrong with F-Sport? What are the advantage and disadvantage between drill , slot and drill+slot?
#15
There are no advantages to drilled other than looks. It's physically weaker, more prone to crack, and removes mass from a device whose ability to hold heat is defined by its mass.
Get a blank rotor for street use, or a slotted if it'll see significant track time.
Get a drilled rotor if it's primarily a show car that never sees high brake temps.
Get a blank rotor for street use, or a slotted if it'll see significant track time.
Get a drilled rotor if it's primarily a show car that never sees high brake temps.