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Old 09-10-09, 08:50 AM
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Default What's the most ideal way to lower your car without coilovers?

I'm looking to buy some rims and tires for my car and I would like to get all the offsets right, with your help, but of course, with that comes the lowering of the car.

I can't get coil overs. They cost thousands and I can't do that. Which springs will give your car the substantial drop for 18" Rims on 245/40 tires?

Can you get a nice drop without coil overs?

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If you go with shocks and springs, the best advice for a good drop would be using TT Supra parts. I'm on TT KYB AGX shocks and TT Eibach's, and have less than a 1 finger gap in front on TT wheels with a 45 series tire, and same in the rear with a 40 series tire.
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You need to research the drops associated with different spring manufacturers. I don't know any off the top of my head, but I believe (dont quote me) tanabes have the lowest drop. Also, know that the lower you go the more negative camber you will encounter. Therefore, you will not get very good tire ware and if money is an issue you need to consider all of these factors before you make your decision. Good luck.
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- cut springs (use a spring calculator to determine the rates you need and how many coils to cut)
- Add aluminum spacers as needed to acheive your height.
- replace shocks with bilstien HD shocks
- enjoy a refreshing drink (beer)
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Originally Posted by 92blacktt
- cut springs (use a spring calculator to determine the rates you need and how many coils to cut)
- Add or subtract aluminum spacers as needed to acheive your height.
- replace shocks with bilstien HD shocks
- enjoy a refreshing drink (beer)
NO!!..do not cut your springs. cutting your springs changes the springs characteristics and ultimately can make your car a rolling coffin. Some people may be using cut sprigs with some success, it is the WORST way to lower your car.

Do it right the first time, do it right once.
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Originally Posted by turbodremz
NO!!..do not cut your springs. cutting your springs changes the springs characteristics and ultimately can make your car a rolling coffin. Some people may be using cut sprigs with some success, it is the WORST way to lower your car.

Do it right the first time, do it right once.
thats why I said to use a spring calculator...

you WANT to change the characteristics, sometimes your lucky enough to acheive the desired ride height and rates by cutting...by what I have seen with my stock soarer springs, it is very possible with this set.

Nothing wrong with cutting springs if you do it right. Over at the suprashop here the 1uz swapped MKII race car is running cut springs...
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Originally Posted by 92blacktt
- cut springs (use a spring calculator to determine the rates you need and how many coils to cut)
- Add aluminum spacers as needed to acheive your height.
- replace shocks with bilstien HD shocks
- enjoy a refreshing drink (beer)
Are you serious? Cutting springs on a Lexus?
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Originally Posted by Luxor
Are you serious? Cutting springs on a Lexus?
yes I am, nothing wrong with it, if you do it accurately and acheive the correct spring rate using a spring rate calculator.
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Originally Posted by 92blacktt
yes I am, nothing wrong with it, if you do it accurately and acheive the correct spring rate using a spring rate calculator.
x2, if done the RIGHT way, its very effective and extremely cost efficient.
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I can't get coil overs. They cost thousands and I can't do that. Which springs will give your car the substantial drop for 18" Rims on 245/40 tires?
Short answer: Espelir Springs.

A decent quality coilover setup can be had inexpensively. Check out the Bilstein Hypercoil Coilovers (gixxer_drew) , or the H&R coilovers. Both can be had for around $800 new (even less used!) and are good street setups.
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^+2 with Espelir springs... I have it on my SC400 and rolling on 20's with 225/35/20 tires
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Nothing wrong with cutting springs if cutting it gets you the desired spring rate and drop height. Cutting springs is a bad rep because more than likely, most people cut without knowing what the hell they're doing.
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Originally Posted by GSteg
Nothing wrong with cutting springs if cutting it gets you the desired spring rate and drop height. Cutting springs is a bad rep because more than likely, most people cut without knowing what the hell they're doing.
your supposed to cut to acheive the desired spring rate, then add spacers to get the correct ride height.
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I understand that its cost efficient but springs are not meant to be cut and should just be replaced with aftermarket ones. Aftermarket springs are made for whatever reason (TRD, Espelir, Eibach etc....) found with their findings.... Cutting will definitely get you in a lot of trouble and could and you up with a fortune of expenses.

But hey, if you are some kind of physics major, rocket scientist and you know what you are doing then.
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