Brake Rotors "Non-Servicable"?
11-15-09, 04:22 PM
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I took my 2007 IS350 in to the dealer today for my 35k service, the dealer told me that my front brake pads are at 3/32 and I will need to replace my front brake pads and rotors for the low price of 785.00. When I asked him if the rotors had to be replaced or if they could be resurfaced. He told me that with my model the brake rotors are "non-serviceable" and it was not possible to machine/resurface the rotors and that rotors always have to be replaced when the pads are.
I don't know if I"m just being cheap, but I have a nagging feeling that I probably don't have to replace the rotors. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the rotors?
I don't know if I"m just being cheap, but I have a nagging feeling that I probably don't have to replace the rotors. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the rotors?
11-16-09, 07:13 AM
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that's probably a lot of labor and overhead... afterall, all those nice cookies had to come from somewhere 
. anyway, 13" rotors from brembo is about 400 each, u'll need two; not to mention the floating hardware. i'd imagine the is350 rotors probably are about 200 each? anyone know?
. anyway, 13" rotors from brembo is about 400 each, u'll need two; not to mention the floating hardware. i'd imagine the is350 rotors probably are about 200 each? anyone know?
11-18-09, 04:25 AM
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I had the same thing happen at my 35k and I wish I knew ahead of time. Might as well swapped the oem rotors for some after market ones. After market are about the same price so why not. If they crack like people say aftermarket do just buy new oem ones next time you need pads like you would have had to do anyway. No loss whatsoever. lol
10-11-10, 01:14 PM
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Sorry to bump this one year old thread. Last year one of my friends noticed that my rotors had a lip on them. I should of taken it in before I hit 50k. But I continued to ride on them until today. I knew the dealership would screw me if I took it to them. So I took it into BrakeMasters. It's going to cost me around $400 to replace the front rotors, brake pads, and flush the brake lines. Did I get screwed or is this reasonable. I knew i could have saved money by DIY. But honestly that is not in my blood.
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Very odd. If your rotors have not been resurfaced yet I see no reason why they can't be done at least once. The cheaper option if you don't want the dealer to do it would be to order the parts on line and have and independent shop do it. One of my CL friends asked the dealer how much it would be to put F-Sport springs on his car and they wanted $500 for labor. He had the parts already. I helped him do it and we spent $44, well I did most of it. Part of that was the sushi I made him buy me. 
Maybe someone more versed on the Lexus IS rotors can chime in but I think it's BS.
Maybe someone more versed on the Lexus IS rotors can chime in but I think it's BS.
LOL if you could help me with it i'll put you sushi any day !
10-13-10, 07:40 PM
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I took my 2007 IS350 in to the dealer today for my 35k service, the dealer told me that my front brake pads are at 3/32 and I will need to replace my front brake pads and rotors for the low price of 785.00. When I asked him if the rotors had to be replaced or if they could be resurfaced. He told me that with my model the brake rotors are "non-serviceable" and it was not possible to machine/resurface the rotors and that rotors always have to be replaced when the pads are.
I don't know if I"m just being cheap, but I have a nagging feeling that I probably don't have to replace the rotors. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the rotors?
I don't know if I"m just being cheap, but I have a nagging feeling that I probably don't have to replace the rotors. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Is it absolutely necessary to replace the rotors?
10-13-10, 10:41 PM
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Turning rotors is almost always a bad idea and only adds to the profit the dealer makes on the job. All this BS about the lip being an issue is truly amazing.
Buy replacement rotors from Lexus or Centric (Centric rotors work great and cost a LOT less). Retail on pads is $59.95 and retail on discs for the front is <$300 for the pair. Time to repair is 30 minutes if you drink a lot of beer and work slowly.
I'll never understand why so many people don't question their service advisers. If your SA is any good at all, they'll welcome your questions and will be happy to show you the disc is at or below serviceable limits. Keep in mind, there's only 3mm of material between new and junk, so if they say something stupid like "there's only a millimeter left" what they're really saying is you still have a third of the service life left. Same is true for the brake pads. There's only 8/32 of material from new to unserviceable. Unserviceable is 1/32! So if you have 3/32 left, you're giving up a LOT of service life just because your SA wants to make money today.
Put it another way - if you run the pad down to ZERO, you'll be replacing pads and rotors because the rotors will surely be junk. Aren't they telling you the SAME THING right now? If you don't change the pads, they'll wear out. OK, so they wear out. You're telling me I have to change pads AND rotors right? Fine. I'll drive them until it's metal on metal and you'll be doing the EXACT SAME THING you're proposing to do today except I'll have put another 10k or 15k on my car when it really and truly finally NEEDS brakes.
Stop accepting the BS and lies. Most people are getting screwed by unscrupulous service advisers recommending replacing perfectly good brakes.
Buy replacement rotors from Lexus or Centric (Centric rotors work great and cost a LOT less). Retail on pads is $59.95 and retail on discs for the front is <$300 for the pair. Time to repair is 30 minutes if you drink a lot of beer and work slowly.
I'll never understand why so many people don't question their service advisers. If your SA is any good at all, they'll welcome your questions and will be happy to show you the disc is at or below serviceable limits. Keep in mind, there's only 3mm of material between new and junk, so if they say something stupid like "there's only a millimeter left" what they're really saying is you still have a third of the service life left. Same is true for the brake pads. There's only 8/32 of material from new to unserviceable. Unserviceable is 1/32! So if you have 3/32 left, you're giving up a LOT of service life just because your SA wants to make money today.
Put it another way - if you run the pad down to ZERO, you'll be replacing pads and rotors because the rotors will surely be junk. Aren't they telling you the SAME THING right now? If you don't change the pads, they'll wear out. OK, so they wear out. You're telling me I have to change pads AND rotors right? Fine. I'll drive them until it's metal on metal and you'll be doing the EXACT SAME THING you're proposing to do today except I'll have put another 10k or 15k on my car when it really and truly finally NEEDS brakes.
Stop accepting the BS and lies. Most people are getting screwed by unscrupulous service advisers recommending replacing perfectly good brakes.
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