Would you recommend Ground Control Coilovers?
#31
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There is nothing wrong with an $800-900 coilover setup. You pay extra for its ride height adjustment. I know a lot of guys want to lower their cars but sometimes the available springs out there may not be enough to do what the user wants. Avoid $800-900 coilovers if you're serious about tracking. Like I said, the Ground Control paired with Koni shocks are the minimum I would even consider for tracking. For daily driving? Most Taiwanese/Chinese/Korean coilovers will do the job.
#32
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This is all true about cheap coils being crap! I have two friends who both autocross their Scion tC's. One is running Hotchkiss springs with Tokico HP shocks (not tooth rattling stiff but better than stock), and the other is running K-sport coilovers (corner balanced too).
Hotchkiss car has Axle back exhaust, rear sway, and Star Specs.
K-Sport car has Hotchkiss front and rear sways, turbo kit (~300whp), gutted interior, racing seat w/harness, and slicks.
Both are very good drivers, and are comparible when driving the same car.
Hotchkiss car has 1-2 second better lap times.
Enough said about K-Sports?
Hotchkiss car has Axle back exhaust, rear sway, and Star Specs.
K-Sport car has Hotchkiss front and rear sways, turbo kit (~300whp), gutted interior, racing seat w/harness, and slicks.
Both are very good drivers, and are comparible when driving the same car.
Hotchkiss car has 1-2 second better lap times.
Enough said about K-Sports?
Last edited by OneJay; 07-14-10 at 06:35 AM.
#33
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This is all true about cheap coils being crap! I have two friends who both autocross their Scion tC's. One is running Hotchkiss springs with Tokico HP shocks (not tooth rattling stiff but better than stock), and the other is running K-sport coilovers (corner balanced too).
Hotchkiss car has Axle back exhaust, rear sway, and Star Specs.
K-Sport car has Hotchkiss front and rear sways, turbo kit (~300whp), gutted interior, racing seat w/harness, and slicks.
Both are very good drivers, and are comparible when driving the same car.
Hotchkiss car has 1-2 second better lap times.
Enough said about K-Sports?
Hotchkiss car has Axle back exhaust, rear sway, and Star Specs.
K-Sport car has Hotchkiss front and rear sways, turbo kit (~300whp), gutted interior, racing seat w/harness, and slicks.
Both are very good drivers, and are comparible when driving the same car.
Hotchkiss car has 1-2 second better lap times.
Enough said about K-Sports?
#35
Lexus Champion
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Lol no not in the least. Those cars are setup entirely differently, you can't possibly blame the slower lap times on just the k-sports. If you want to do a real comparison have them exchange suspensions and see the difference. I'd also be curious as to what a simple driver swap would do even both are "good drivers". Also depending on how the coilovers are adjusted and dialed in will make a huge difference. What about tires? Wheels? Allignment settings? Brakes? You're comparing an apple with a bowling ball.
He's going to get some Dan Gardner race spec coilovers when they start taking orders, so we'll see if that helps out too.
EDIT: Both have stock brakes with aftermarket pads. One is running Axxis and the other Stoptech I think. The pads have pretty similar results.
It's pretty fast in a straight line, but he has trouble putting down all the power coming out of a corner (just like me ). I think an LSD is in the works for him too.
#37
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Oh and the guy with the K-sports managed to snap his front Hotchkiss bar right in half last summer during an autocross. Just thought that was worth throwing in there hahaha.
#40
Now a caveat is that in bad weather the very very stiff sways do induce more hydroplaning.
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