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Old 11-23-10, 08:29 PM
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And for the record-I never said that Megan Coilovers were "the best." Im just tired of people going by what they have heard. You can tell me all day long you (BartleDoo) have personally used Megan coilovers and I wouldn't be able to believe that. Obviously you know the best. I forgot I was just dumb and don't know **** about coilovers.
Old 11-23-10, 08:57 PM
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A. You didn't read any of my previous posts?
B. I will reiterate the fact that I said it isn't about money.
C. I never said Stance was a basis for judgement on the criteria I was originally joking about (I already had to say this about Tein once).
D. We are talking about coil-overs and not their other parts here so don't change the subject
E. You guys are basically now calling me an ignorant elitist skeptic even though you yourselves are saying "don't believe what ALL of the major racing series' are telling you! The cheapest is the best because we used the other cheap brand and couldn't tell the difference!"
F. Please
G. Megan wouldn't be "the best" if it were more expensive because the only reason everyone is defending it is because they desperately want to think the cheapest is the best. That may be everyone's dream, but people are getting seriously carried away here.
H. Since you are so adamantly using the same argument as the others. You better make sure to buy every brand of every item you ever get [in every one of it's different versions] to make sure that you got the right one. Don't trust consumer reports, expert reviews and numbers that you don't understand. Just buy them all.
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Originally Posted by BartleDoo
I don't consider any of those coil-overs to be high quality except the linearly sprung high end KW models
I believe I just stated that they don't just make EZ street coilovers. They make other nice adjustable coilovers.

Originally Posted by BartleDoo
What you pay for in quality coil-overs is the damping engineering and spring consistency, and most JDM coil-over manufacturers don't have it. Megan is at or near the bottom of that heap
So you're saying I have to pay more because they spent longer engineering their damping and spring consistency? I thought you said price doesn't matter...
Originally Posted by BartleDoo
I don't think you need to test every different version yourself. I put more faith in true experts' reviews and shock dyno curves than the general public who drive hard (no offense).
I haven't heard any recent bad reviews on megans. They have come along way. Check out this thread http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-ven...cs-inside.html ....many EVO people are very pleased with their purchase. I also read on some bimmer forums and such good reviews. I'm sure there are some bad reviews, but then again, im definatly sure there are some with other companies aswell....its nothing new. Cant please everyone.
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Not trying to be an ***, but why would one go around trying every part that is known to be low performance
Why do you think these are considered to be "low performance." According to your ideology if someone told you to jump off a bridge because it was the smart thing to do-you would have to believe them...right?
I heard/read megan coilovers are bad = I shouldnt buy them
I heard/read jumping off a bridge is good for me = I should do that.

Originally Posted by BartleDoo
Then, lo and behold, people start trying to prove that Megan Racing coil-overs are the best...ever.......AND FOR ROAD RACING??!! I guess I should delete all of my comments and then we can have this thread stickied for its wealth of good information.
I never said that they were the best coilover. I never said they were bad either.
Originally Posted by BartleDoo
P.S. You should let F1 know that they are obviously using the wrong stuff.
F1 spends far more time engineering coilovers for THEIR racing series. If im not mistaken an F1 car is a lot different than an automobile.
Originally Posted by BartleDoo
We are talking about coil-overs and not their other parts here so don't change the subject
You make it sound like the coilover makes or breaks the car. It doesn't. There are MANY factors in suspension geometry that come into play.
Originally Posted by BartleDoo
You guys are basically now calling me an ignorant elitist skeptic even though you yourselves are saying "don't believe what ALL of the major racing series' are telling you! The cheapest is the best because we used the other cheap brand and couldn't tell the difference!"
I don't see any racing series telling me Megans are terrible. And if they did I would have to assume they're biased.

Originally Posted by BartleDoo
Megan wouldn't be "the best" if it were more expensive because the only reason everyone is defending it is because they desperately want to think the cheapest is the best. That may be everyone's dream, but people are getting seriously carried away here.
I didn't and still havent said that megans are the best. You are under the impression that it is too cheap to be a quality product.



Please feel free to check this thread out on this site. You obviously need to try them or prove to me that they are really "that bad." I love the Megans I had, and the person who has them now absolutly loves them.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sus...-that-bad.html
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Obviously you don't know what I'm saying so you should just give up and stop fishing for contradictions that aren't there. I'm not trying to call you an idiot so don't get so defensive about your intelligence. If there was solid scientific data that corresponded to jumping off of a bridge being beneficial, then you're damn right I would be the first off of the bridge. Again, you didn't understand. I have driven a friends S14 with Megans and all it wanted to do was oversteer. That is my only experience first hand at the wheel of a Megan-ed car. I haven't driven a Megan-ed SC, though. So, you still have me there, but I don't need to. I am not talking about their other products because I don't know about their other products.

Your assumptions of what I am thinking are all wrong, so stop trying.

P.S. YOU LINKED ME TO A VENDOR'S THREAD. GREAT SOURCE. Proceed to jump off of the bridge.
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Originally Posted by BartleDoo
Obviously you don't know what I'm saying so you should just give up and stop fishing for contradictions that aren't there. I'm not trying to call you an idiot so don't get so defensive about your intelligence. If there was solid scientific data that corresponded to jumping off of a bridge being beneficial, then you're damn right I would be the first off of the bridge. Again, you didn't understand. I have driven a friends S14 with Megans and all it wanted to do was oversteer. That is my only experience first hand at the wheel of a Megan-ed car. I haven't driven a Megan-ed SC, though. So, you still have me there, but I don't need to. I am not talking about their other products because I don't know about their other products.

Your assumptions of what I am thinking are all wrong, so stop trying.

P.S. YOU LINKED ME TO A VENDOR'S THREAD. GREAT SOURCE. Proceed to jump off of the bridge.
Vendor thread or not, its members opinions of said products.

I think I gotcha on that one. Don't talk about stuff you havent personaly delt with. Jumping on the bandwagon isnt always the best option
Old 11-24-10, 04:55 AM
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bartledoo what would you recomend, for a road racer/everyday driver, brand and and why sir.
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what do you think about bc racing coilovers
Old 11-24-10, 05:02 AM
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i was thinking the difference between expensive coilovers and cheaper one was the shocks between the springs, each spring have a rating, the differents will be the craftmanship of the shocks, the duty,opperationship,and durability of the shocks is most inportant.am not a shock specialist.
Old 11-24-10, 05:17 AM
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wow this thread turned dead
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My car is no race car and is driven maybe 2 days a week I think megans would be just fine for it. Not saying I would get the EZ ones though, just curious if anyone had used them and could compare them to another set of megan coils.
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Yea, sorry your thread turned into a pissing contest. The Megans are fine if you just want to lower your car for looks and not worry about them breaking or anything. What I was saying about quality is that for me personally it corresponds to more than just the materials used and the product's durability. Then it just got twisted into something else.

For the guy asking about street/track. If you're on a budget, check out this thread http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...light=bilstein
I run this setup currently with 600f 325r and it is very good for aggressive street driving. I am going to up the rates to 650f 500r for a good street/track setup. I'm sure it will be awesome.
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Originally Posted by skirts
My car is no race car and is driven maybe 2 days a week I think megans would be just fine for it. Not saying I would get the EZ ones though, just curious if anyone had used them and could compare them to another set of megan coils.
brotha go with the megans , they are well made in fact bc coilovers also made by same company ..

i have had them for about 2yrs , no issues at all ... they are very responsive comfy and the damping adjustment works pretty well


talk to jeremy blackwell from speed for sale , hes the largest megan dist and has sold over 200 sets within supra community with a return ratio of less than 1%..
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Originally Posted by skirts
My car is no race car and is driven maybe 2 days a week I think megans would be just fine for it. Not saying I would get the EZ ones though, just curious if anyone had used them and could compare them to another set of megan coils.
remember, don't make the coilovers too stiff or else it'll blow.
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Out of curiosity how much does it cost to do a gixxer drew setup?
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Originally Posted by countrygre
i was thinking the difference between expensive coilovers and cheaper one was the shocks between the springs, each spring have a rating, the differents will be the craftmanship of the shocks, the duty,opperationship,and durability of the shocks is most inportant.am not a shock specialist.

You are absolutely correct. The biggest difference is the damper. There is a reason why Megans, BC, etc have so many applications, and most of their coils are the same price. Although it's nice to have dual height adjustment for the consumer, it's a win-win for the campany too. Most of the time the shocks are interchangeable so if you blow one, they'll just grab whatever is off the shelf and send it your way. The dual height allows the coilover to fit in most applications since many of them aren't vastly different from one another. Physical fit is one thing, but actual performance is another.

Most buyers don't track their cars enough to spend $2000-$5000 on a set of coils. The split second difference at the track isn't worth it, but for someone who literally races for a living will see it as a good investment.


Look at the big name brands like JRZ, Penske, Moton, etc. They have very limited selection because engineering coilovers specifically for a car to perform at its best is not cheap.

I personally do not run Megans for my own reasons, but there is a market for them and that's the budget-minded group.


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