Ride Comfort
11-27-10, 03:41 PM
#1
Ride Comfort
can you achieve stock ride quality on a spring/shock combo with a minimal drop like fsport? Or are coils better since you can adjust the dampering? I get mixed reviews from everyone who has a 1" to 1.5' drop on fsports. On my VW I had bilstien shocks/struts and neuspeed springs which gave me a 1.5" drop. The ride quality on the highway was fine. But soon as I got into towns and citys and hit bump in the road it was absolutely horrible. I dont want my Lexus to sound like that. The reason why im leaning towards springs over coils is because im looking for a minimal drop and I dont feel like dealing with having to rebuild coils.
11-27-10, 08:47 PM
#2
I was stuck trying to decide which to do also. I ended up getting the F Sport combo for the same reasons you are considering springs.
I was pleasantly surprised with the ride. I think it improved it more - well, it really depends on what you personally feel comfortable at - because it wasn't too smooth but it was a tad bouncy. Not harsh at all, not even in town. Of course you will feel bumps in the beaten city streets but to me it's not annoying. If you come across a gap in the road, then you will feel it but that's because it's the progressive spring reaction to it.
The best part is, if you have it installed by Lexus, it will be covered by your existing warranty. I also have no fear of going too low and rubbing or hitting curb blocks in a parking lot.
Here's a good article that you might want to look at:
https://secure.drivers.lexus.com/lex...r/F-Sport.html
Good luck on your decision.
I was pleasantly surprised with the ride. I think it improved it more - well, it really depends on what you personally feel comfortable at - because it wasn't too smooth but it was a tad bouncy. Not harsh at all, not even in town. Of course you will feel bumps in the beaten city streets but to me it's not annoying. If you come across a gap in the road, then you will feel it but that's because it's the progressive spring reaction to it.
The best part is, if you have it installed by Lexus, it will be covered by your existing warranty. I also have no fear of going too low and rubbing or hitting curb blocks in a parking lot.
Here's a good article that you might want to look at:
https://secure.drivers.lexus.com/lex...r/F-Sport.html
Good luck on your decision.
11-27-10, 10:00 PM
#4
No that is not the case. Most people seem to be confused on the limits of the dampers. I've seen this time and time again: "Turn it full soft and it'll ride butter smooth and crank it up for track days!".
You need to look at the setup as a whole. If the coilovers come with very stiff springs, no amount of damping adjustments will make the car ride smooth.
Best bet to finding your perfect setup is to get a ride in another member's car. I'm sure there are quite a few CL'ers from NJ
You need to look at the setup as a whole. If the coilovers come with very stiff springs, no amount of damping adjustments will make the car ride smooth.
Best bet to finding your perfect setup is to get a ride in another member's car. I'm sure there are quite a few CL'ers from NJ
11-28-10, 08:31 AM
#7
I was stuck trying to decide which to do also. I ended up getting the F Sport combo for the same reasons you are considering springs.
I was pleasantly surprised with the ride. I think it improved it more - well, it really depends on what you personally feel comfortable at - because it wasn't too smooth but it was a tad bouncy. Not harsh at all, not even in town. Of course you will feel bumps in the beaten city streets but to me it's not annoying. If you come across a gap in the road, then you will feel it but that's because it's the progressive spring reaction to it.
The best part is, if you have it installed by Lexus, it will be covered by your existing warranty. I also have no fear of going too low and rubbing or hitting curb blocks in a parking lot.
Here's a good article that you might want to look at:
https://secure.drivers.lexus.com/lex...r/F-Sport.html
Good luck on your decision.
I was pleasantly surprised with the ride. I think it improved it more - well, it really depends on what you personally feel comfortable at - because it wasn't too smooth but it was a tad bouncy. Not harsh at all, not even in town. Of course you will feel bumps in the beaten city streets but to me it's not annoying. If you come across a gap in the road, then you will feel it but that's because it's the progressive spring reaction to it.
The best part is, if you have it installed by Lexus, it will be covered by your existing warranty. I also have no fear of going too low and rubbing or hitting curb blocks in a parking lot.
Here's a good article that you might want to look at:
https://secure.drivers.lexus.com/lex...r/F-Sport.html
Good luck on your decision.
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11-28-10, 01:20 PM
#8
I am running BCR coils slammed with 20's and the ride is better than stock i think. I got them set to all the way soft and it rides like a dream with my spring rates. BCR's are awesome and pretty descent prices
Last edited by JMcDonald; 11-29-10 at 04:08 PM.
11-29-10, 04:16 PM
#9
Tanabe's NF210s will drop your car a little and have a ride very similar to stock. Tanabe NF210 Springs
11-30-10, 11:22 AM
#12
would be the same.. the nf210s or other springs are MADE for certain cars. In this case the IS... these aren't just universal springs. They were tested and made for the car.
Only goes now is... who is cheaper. Same comfort and height... material/built wise... who wants to pay for the name?
Only goes now is... who is cheaper. Same comfort and height... material/built wise... who wants to pay for the name?
Same reason why some people choose F-Sport intake over JoeZ Intake, it comes with a Carb Cert and is legal in all states.
Also why people choose to pay for authentic over replica, they don't mind paying premium for peace of mind in some cases.
Last edited by JDKane527; 11-30-10 at 01:36 PM.
11-30-10, 05:16 PM
#15
Like I said in the previous page, the ***** aren't suppose to be used to change the car's ride characteristic that much. Many of the lowering springs are wound to be stiffer than stock in one way or another. I bet if you can lower your car using the same spring rate (or wound the same progressively), then you'll get close, if not the same ride quality as as stock. Of course handling won't handle the same.
If you have stiff spring rates and you've turned the dial down to full soft (even if it meant no damping control at all), then you'll still be stiffer than stock. The key to a nice ride quality is matching shocks to the right spring rate whether it be from coilovers or spring/shock. If you choose to go the coilover route, get a set with relatively soft spring rates and pray to God that they valved the shocks accordingly.
If you have stiff spring rates and you've turned the dial down to full soft (even if it meant no damping control at all), then you'll still be stiffer than stock. The key to a nice ride quality is matching shocks to the right spring rate whether it be from coilovers or spring/shock. If you choose to go the coilover route, get a set with relatively soft spring rates and pray to God that they valved the shocks accordingly.