How does my alignment look - IS250 AWD
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Either the before is wrong or the after is wrong, because a lot of the stuff that was out of spec before is non-adjustable. How did they magically get non-adjustable alignment values into spec?
Available adjustments on the IS:
Front AWD:
Camber and Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections).
Front RWD:
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable).
Rear All models:
Toe Only
Jeff
Last edited by Jeff Lange; 02-16-11 at 08:03 PM.
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That alignment doesn't make any sense.
Either the before is wrong or the after is wrong, because a lot of the stuff that was out of spec before is non-adjustable. How did they magically get non-adjustable alignment values into spec?
Available adjustments on the IS:
Front AWD:
Camber and Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections).
Front RWD:
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable).
Rear All models:
Toe Only
Jeff
Either the before is wrong or the after is wrong, because a lot of the stuff that was out of spec before is non-adjustable. How did they magically get non-adjustable alignment values into spec?
Available adjustments on the IS:
Front AWD:
Camber and Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections).
Front RWD:
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable).
Rear All models:
Toe Only
Jeff
The person there is very experienced and must of figured out what was needed to be done to bring it in spec. I am not familar with the technical areas for alignment, but maybe other members who are familar might know how it was done.
Last edited by Sango; 02-17-11 at 09:43 AM.
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I have no doubt that you may have had alignment problems and that they fixed them for you and that the alignment is now correct, however what I listed is all that is adjustable. Adjusting one can sometimes change another reading slightly, however it still doesn't make sense. :\
What looks off more than anything is the 'before' alignment, in order to get some of those values, the car would need to have been crashed a few times. Obviously there's no way to verify it now, but I know what's adjustable and what isn't. It looks fishy for sure.
The left rear is the most easily seen, as before the toe is correct and the camber was off. If all you can adjust is the toe (it is), then what did he do to get the camber in spec? There's nothing that can be done, short of replacing bent/damaged parts, or buying some aftermarket adjustable control arms, etc.
Jeff
What looks off more than anything is the 'before' alignment, in order to get some of those values, the car would need to have been crashed a few times. Obviously there's no way to verify it now, but I know what's adjustable and what isn't. It looks fishy for sure.
The left rear is the most easily seen, as before the toe is correct and the camber was off. If all you can adjust is the toe (it is), then what did he do to get the camber in spec? There's nothing that can be done, short of replacing bent/damaged parts, or buying some aftermarket adjustable control arms, etc.
Jeff
Last edited by Jeff Lange; 02-17-11 at 03:13 AM.
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I think you're missing what I'm suggesting. I wasn't saying the car was in an accident, or that there is even anything wrong with the work they did, just that the "before" printout doesn't look like it's right, so they probably repositioned the car after getting the 'before' readings, or the wheel reflector heads weren't quite on right yet, or something along those lines.
There's definitely something up with what the before sheet is saying.
Jeff
There's definitely something up with what the before sheet is saying.
Jeff
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I think you're missing what I'm suggesting. I wasn't saying the car was in an accident, or that there is even anything wrong with the work they did, just that the "before" printout doesn't look like it's right, so they probably repositioned the car after getting the 'before' readings, or the wheel reflector heads weren't quite on right yet, or something along those lines.
There's definitely something up with what the before sheet is saying.
Jeff
There's definitely something up with what the before sheet is saying.
Jeff
He said there were other things (it is a trade thing from experience) which can be done to correct the geometry of the vehicle if it is within a certain tolerance. If the adjustment required needs to go beyond the tolerence then, it would require after market or the factory would have to employ other things to adjust it.
Bascially there was more done to the car besides the adjustable settings to properly align the vehicle.
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The front camber/caster wasn't that far out, so it's possible when they adjusted the camber it also fixed the caster. As for the rear, the only possible way I can think of to adjust the camber like they did would have been to shift the cradle over. It's possible this is what they did I guess.
Anyways, it doesn't really matter, as long as it's all good now.
Jeff
Anyways, it doesn't really matter, as long as it's all good now.
Jeff
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I have an '08 IS 350 and am about to get my alignment done (I'm actually posting on this thread from the place's wifi). Thanks for the info on what can and can't be changed. If I'm understanding correctly, for my car, on the front they can only do:
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable) and on the rear the Toe Only.
When I get the final printout I'll now have an idea on what to look out for
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable) and on the rear the Toe Only.
When I get the final printout I'll now have an idea on what to look out for
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I have an '08 IS 350 and am about to get my alignment done (I'm actually posting on this thread from the place's wifi). Thanks for the info on what can and can't be changed. If I'm understanding correctly, for my car, on the front they can only do:
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable) and on the rear the Toe Only.
When I get the final printout I'll now have an idea on what to look out for
Toe (Caster adjustable, but only by replacing the rear bushing bracket, there are 3 available selections, Camber not adjustable) and on the rear the Toe Only.
When I get the final printout I'll now have an idea on what to look out for
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Looks like the subframes got adjusted on Sango's ride. It's the only way to balance out camber from side to side, and it would seem Lexus has not figured out how to get this more right than wrong at the factory at least from all the complaints about tire wear issues on the 2IS of all flavors.
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