some pics of my car after the brake install
11-20-02, 03:16 PM
#32
well, actually it's NOT that bad. i have the tein HA, and 1 finger gap all around. my rears are ALL within spec, no problem at all, the tire wear is perfect. the front though, everything is good except camber, where i got negative camber. but still, it's like 1 degree off, so it's not as bad as i thought. i got more tire wear on the inside but it's not serious, specially if i put in a bit more pressure on the front tires.
and wait, if i am right there is no camber kit for our front right? if there is one by all means tell me, i would get them for sure
oh and for the record, i tried to raise the car back up by 1/2" to a bit more than 2 fingers gap. the camber is still off by 1/2 to almost 1 degree. so since i figured it's off anyway, why not make it look better
and wait, if i am right there is no camber kit for our front right? if there is one by all means tell me, i would get them for sure
oh and for the record, i tried to raise the car back up by 1/2" to a bit more than 2 fingers gap. the camber is still off by 1/2 to almost 1 degree. so since i figured it's off anyway, why not make it look better
11-20-02, 03:33 PM
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That's exactly what I thought. There is NO camber kit for GS
1.5-2.0" of drop is the max you can do with GS w/o getting the negative camber.
Rominl, you're absolutely right, I'd go for that dope looking and stop worrying about the minor tire wear.
I went with another route, increasing the total diameter to decrease the wheel well gap
1.5-2.0" of drop is the max you can do with GS w/o getting the negative camber.
Rominl, you're absolutely right, I'd go for that dope looking and stop worrying about the minor tire wear.
I went with another route, increasing the total diameter to decrease the wheel well gap
11-20-02, 03:43 PM
#34
seriously i wonder why no one bothers to make camber kits for our car, i just don't see the reason coz' our camber is quite sensative and there are tons of people dropping the car. with a more aggressive springs setup your camber would be off already, so....
so anything more than 1.5" will have negative camber? well that's good, so i dont' ahve to worry anymore, i have at least 3" drop already, so i can live with the 1 degree off. and yeah, go ahead and drop the car more, trust me it won't make things any worse, as long as you do alignment quick
actually i have been thinking about the route you doing. obviously i don't have the money for 20", but i am thinking about getting a higher profile tires, so 245/40/19 and 275/35/19 instead of 245/35/19 and 275/30/19. it would be just like your 20" in diameter, so i can raise the car back up a bit, and the ride would be a lot more comfortable. but then the handling would be worse... any ideas? how much worse would the ride be if i get that high profile tires?
so anything more than 1.5" will have negative camber? well that's good, so i dont' ahve to worry anymore, i have at least 3" drop already, so i can live with the 1 degree off. and yeah, go ahead and drop the car more, trust me it won't make things any worse, as long as you do alignment quick
actually i have been thinking about the route you doing. obviously i don't have the money for 20", but i am thinking about getting a higher profile tires, so 245/40/19 and 275/35/19 instead of 245/35/19 and 275/30/19. it would be just like your 20" in diameter, so i can raise the car back up a bit, and the ride would be a lot more comfortable. but then the handling would be worse... any ideas? how much worse would the ride be if i get that high profile tires?
Originally posted by JacobT
That's exactly what I thought. There is NO camber kit for GS
1.5-2.0" of drop is the max you can do with GS w/o getting the negative camber.
Rominl, you're absolutely right, I'd go for that dope looking and stop worrying about the minor tire wear.
I went with another route, increasing the total diameter to decrease the wheel well gap
That's exactly what I thought. There is NO camber kit for GS
1.5-2.0" of drop is the max you can do with GS w/o getting the negative camber.
Rominl, you're absolutely right, I'd go for that dope looking and stop worrying about the minor tire wear.
I went with another route, increasing the total diameter to decrease the wheel well gap
11-20-02, 03:51 PM
#35
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Nice looking brakes and wheels there!
I heard that everyone in the GB, at the point I bought, had AV3 wheels and bought the full kit! Looks very nice on your car.
Re: Camber
The negative camber will help in the handling department. Take a look at most BMW cars and you'll be able to visually see how much more negative (to the negative) camber they run straight from the factory. Part of the reason for the nice handling, IMHO.
I heard that everyone in the GB, at the point I bought, had AV3 wheels and bought the full kit! Looks very nice on your car.
Re: Camber
The negative camber will help in the handling department. Take a look at most BMW cars and you'll be able to visually see how much more negative (to the negative) camber they run straight from the factory. Part of the reason for the nice handling, IMHO.
11-20-02, 04:06 PM
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245/40/19 and 275/35/19 are still low profile tires. You will not notice any handling difference. But those sizes are a little hard to find. Check under your wheel well, if your front tire is tuck under the joint of upper control arm, you're out of luck. Increase the diameter in this case will hit the upper control arm. If your current setup, the front tire is offset to the upper control arm then 1" of diameter increase is feasible. I'd say +39 offset or less will bring your tire away from the control arm.
I used to run -2.5 camber on my M3, YES, the handling is way better at corners. But 8k miles for each set of tires is a little bit too much
I used to run -2.5 camber on my M3, YES, the handling is way better at corners. But 8k miles for each set of tires is a little bit too much
11-20-02, 04:22 PM
#37
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Yo Henry, Nice setup. You sponsored by Impex now. Did they do the brake install? Next time you are in LA, please let me know, I would like to see you new brakes and try them out if I could. Thanks.
11-20-02, 04:47 PM
#38
Originally posted by Mr Johnson
Nice looking brakes and wheels there!
I heard that everyone in the GB, at the point I bought, had AV3 wheels and bought the full kit! Looks very nice on your car.
Re: Camber
The negative camber will help in the handling department. Take a look at most BMW cars and you'll be able to visually see how much more negative (to the negative) camber they run straight from the factory. Part of the reason for the nice handling, IMHO.
Nice looking brakes and wheels there!
I heard that everyone in the GB, at the point I bought, had AV3 wheels and bought the full kit! Looks very nice on your car.
Re: Camber
The negative camber will help in the handling department. Take a look at most BMW cars and you'll be able to visually see how much more negative (to the negative) camber they run straight from the factory. Part of the reason for the nice handling, IMHO.
yeah, actually if you look at the spec, the stock wheels on our gs are also a bit negative camber, specially at the back. but it's not as serious as bimmers. if you sit behind a 540i or the m5, you would be amazed
11-20-02, 04:49 PM
#39
Originally posted by JacobT
245/40/19 and 275/35/19 are still low profile tires. You will not notice any handling difference. But those sizes are a little hard to find. Check under your wheel well, if your front tire is tuck under the joint of upper control arm, you're out of luck. Increase the diameter in this case will hit the upper control arm. If your current setup, the front tire is offset to the upper control arm then 1" of diameter increase is feasible. I'd say +39 offset or less will bring your tire away from the control arm.
I used to run -2.5 camber on my M3, YES, the handling is way better at corners. But 8k miles for each set of tires is a little bit too much
245/40/19 and 275/35/19 are still low profile tires. You will not notice any handling difference. But those sizes are a little hard to find. Check under your wheel well, if your front tire is tuck under the joint of upper control arm, you're out of luck. Increase the diameter in this case will hit the upper control arm. If your current setup, the front tire is offset to the upper control arm then 1" of diameter increase is feasible. I'd say +39 offset or less will bring your tire away from the control arm.
I used to run -2.5 camber on my M3, YES, the handling is way better at corners. But 8k miles for each set of tires is a little bit too much
8k miles that's a bit too less! i am sure the tires on my car has been for more than 15k
11-20-02, 04:51 PM
#40
Originally posted by mcgong
Yo Henry, Nice setup. You sponsored by Impex now. Did they do the brake install? Next time you are in LA, please let me know, I would like to see you new brakes and try them out if I could. Thanks.
Yo Henry, Nice setup. You sponsored by Impex now. Did they do the brake install? Next time you are in LA, please let me know, I would like to see you new brakes and try them out if I could. Thanks.
just that i figured i need to put something on my car before taking pics coz' the licence plate was off. since they helped on my tein and also a lot on my acura i would definitely give them a lift yup, will let you know when i am down there and have time
11-20-02, 05:03 PM
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Looks great rominl! I bet the pictures don't really do your car justice. You would think that as long as the AV3's have been out they would look tired, and maybe the do on other cars, but not the GS! Just classy...
11-20-02, 05:23 PM
#42
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Originally posted by rominl
wait, i know i have av3, and gwu has av3. you are running av3 too?!?!?! that's something i didn't know!!!! haha.... anyway, it's awesome, where's yor pics?
wait, i know i have av3, and gwu has av3. you are running av3 too?!?!?! that's something i didn't know!!!! haha.... anyway, it's awesome, where's yor pics?
Pics are going to have to wait for the weekend. I was out of town last weekend and too many other things going on during the week to get any pictures.
BTW: Did you pull your old Stillen stickers off before putting the new ones on?
yeah, actually if you look at the spec, the stock wheels on our gs are also a bit negative camber, specially at the back. but it's not as serious as bimmers. if you sit behind a 540i or the m5, you would be amazed
11-20-02, 05:26 PM
#43
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Originally posted by rominl
oh, then i better check my control arms soon then. the offset on my wheels are either +39 or +44, anyone? mr johnson, what's the offset on your av3, if that's what you have now?
oh, then i better check my control arms soon then. the offset on my wheels are either +39 or +44, anyone? mr johnson, what's the offset on your av3, if that's what you have now?
11-20-02, 05:32 PM
#44
hahaa, av3 all the way then, it's classic i have to say yeah, have you ordered the yellow sticker? don't get the impression that they are sticker, they are actually METAL strip with ap racing on them, very solid stuff. even the stillen sticker is metal too. just use a tiny flat head screwdriver and you will be able to pull out the stillen sticker, very easy. then clean the area and put on the yellow ones
i have a feeling that mine is a big disc setup too, so iguess mine is +39. it's stupid coz' at the back of the spokes it says 19 and then the width and offset are all missing.... guess they were stickers... darn... and it's hard to measure too...
yeah, have you ordered the yellow sticker? don't get the impression that they are sticker, they are actually METAL strip with ap racing on them, very solid stuff. even the stillen sticker is metal too. just use a tiny flat head screwdriver and you will be able to pull out the stillen sticker, very easy. then clean the area and put on the yellow ones i have a feeling that mine is a big disc setup too, so iguess mine is +39. it's stupid coz' at the back of the spokes it says 19 and then the width and offset are all missing.... guess they were stickers... darn... and it's hard to measure too...
