Akebono Pads - Proact vs. Performance
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Anyone have comments about the differences between these two types of pads? I noticed most on the board using the Proacts, but wondering about the Performance line.
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Wow first time I hear of the performance line being available for the 3IS! You may have to be the guinea pig and see if they fit (they should since the ACT1118 fit.) and let us know what you think. I have those performance pads on my G37S and they are great would love to put them on my 18’ 300 F Sport! ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Well the problem is that my Infiniti had those this whole time AND I have the big brakes on the rear so the bite is awesome and stopping power is insane. I feel our IS doesn’t have as good stopping power because of the rear brakes. IMHO I can almost guarantee if you were to put the performance Akebono pads on the IS your stopping power would be noticeably better along with less brake dust. I’m probably going to change to Akebonos even though I only have 3,000 miles on my IS because the brake dust is stupid on the OE pads.
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I say do it. Also if you do please let me know if those ASP1118 work because if they do I’ll probably switch over right away. ![EEK!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/eek1.gif)
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Well like I said the rear calipers are not sport calipers they are regular calipers so no reason to put performance pads on them anyway. I’m pretty sure the OE rear pads are ceramic idk if someone can confirm that since they make very little brakedust. But this is good to know I will be getting the Akebono performance pads and switching to those soon! Thanks for the info and let us know if you do it so you can tell us your experience with them.
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Don't expect any free rides.
you go up in performance, you go up in noise and dust, and wear.
go down in noise and dust and wear, go down on performance.
cannot have both. you have to decide what balance is important to you.
i'm not sure what the rear pads are but all things being equal, they are much smaller and do much less work than the front pads. so naturally they will create a lot less dust.
you go up in performance, you go up in noise and dust, and wear.
go down in noise and dust and wear, go down on performance.
cannot have both. you have to decide what balance is important to you.
i'm not sure what the rear pads are but all things being equal, they are much smaller and do much less work than the front pads. so naturally they will create a lot less dust.
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Well like I said the rear calipers are not sport calipers they are regular calipers so no reason to put performance pads on them anyway. I’m pretty sure the OE rear pads are ceramic idk if someone can confirm that since they make very little brakedust. But this is good to know I will be getting the Akebono performance pads and switching to those soon! Thanks for the info and let us know if you do it so you can tell us your experience with them.
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Don't expect any free rides.
you go up in performance, you go up in noise and dust, and wear.
go down in noise and dust and wear, go down on performance.
cannot have both. you have to decide what balance is important to you.
i'm not sure what the rear pads are but all things being equal, they are much smaller and do much less work than the front pads. so naturally they will create a lot less dust.
you go up in performance, you go up in noise and dust, and wear.
go down in noise and dust and wear, go down on performance.
cannot have both. you have to decide what balance is important to you.
i'm not sure what the rear pads are but all things being equal, they are much smaller and do much less work than the front pads. so naturally they will create a lot less dust.
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There is a trade off. That is a fact. By definition. I've been there done that in the BMW world. With stock Textar (same manufacturer as F Sport high friction) vs. Akebono/cermaic/low dust etc. I've done a lot of aggressive canyon and track driving in my day. Lexus would not install high dust, high wear pads for two generations if IS (same part#) if there wasn't a performance benefit. There's a reason Lexus offers a high friction (black backed) and low friction (blue backed) option for the 3IS. Car makers don't spend even a penny more if they can avoid it.
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There's also a reason BMWs have been praised for decades for its world class brakes but notorious for having "BMW brake dust." Ask any performance BMW owner (or Porsche for that matter) and they'll tell you about their wheels turning black. If there was a secret sauce for having your cake and eating it too (high performance and no dust) some billion dollar automaker would've found it by now.
You may perceive your car as not having any brake degradation cause you can physically stop it "fast." with your akebono low dust pads. you'll even be able to engage ABS during a panic stop (as any Camry can) but there is a difference, particularly under high stress repeated stops, particularly with high performance tires.
Not to say the F Sport pads are the end all be all. It's still a street pad. You just have to decide where on the spectrum you want to be and that nothing comes for free
You may perceive your car as not having any brake degradation cause you can physically stop it "fast." with your akebono low dust pads. you'll even be able to engage ABS during a panic stop (as any Camry can) but there is a difference, particularly under high stress repeated stops, particularly with high performance tires.
Not to say the F Sport pads are the end all be all. It's still a street pad. You just have to decide where on the spectrum you want to be and that nothing comes for free