springs and coil over help
12-10-07, 12:03 AM
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I think he's trying to say that with coilovers, you could make a lot more mistakes than springs. Sure, coilovers let's you adjust everything, but what if that person doesn't know how and ends up messing up his alignment and etc. With springs just install and it should be fine, although if you're not happy with the springs then sucks for you 
That said, assuming the person does know how to take a wheel off the car and turn the height adjustment collar to raise or lower the spring perch, once they have set the vehicle to their desired ride height, they would still have to take their car to have an alignment done. This is exactly the same as if they had lowering springs installed. I don't see how this is any different. You can't just have springs installed and call it a day because your alignment WILL be off even if you are only conservatively lowering your car 1".
12-10-07, 01:18 AM
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I don't understand why this is a problem. It is actually an advantage coilovers have over aftermkt springs. With springs, you have one ride height. Some springs are not made to perfect tolerances so you may find that the car is not perfect or the drop is uneven - and there's no way to fix it. With coilovers, you can set the ride height to the exact millimeter so it actually allows you to fix uneven ride height, not cause it as you are indicating.
With respect to adjusting compression and rebound damping, why wouldn't you want the ability to control this? With good coilovers, you can dial in the exact balance you want between ride and handling.
With respect to adjusting compression and rebound damping, why wouldn't you want the ability to control this? With good coilovers, you can dial in the exact balance you want between ride and handling.
i have coilovers myself i was just explaining what you would have to do with coilovers rather than just having springs.
12-10-07, 05:32 PM
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12-11-07, 09:57 PM
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I feel you man . Its totally a pain in the rear. Stock shocks with aftermarket springs (designed to run with oem shocks) is the best for this type of vehicle in my opinion. ITS A FREAKN LEXUS GS. Its a big 3700 pound boulevard cruiser, not some track machine. In my opinion coilovers are for cars with alot more sporting intentions than a lexus GS. Man I would love to see some guy at a track day with a lexus gs. after you set up coilovers (which through trial and error takes for ever) you set it and forget it. I think springs with maybe adj shocks in the future would be a solid alternative with less hassle. PS with coilovers you do have to have the car corner balanced. If not you are playing yourself. Thats why for all the trouble and cost they should be ideal for track purposes. man the traction control in the car is so invasive you cant even drive the cars past 7/10ths
12-11-07, 10:41 PM
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Unfortunately, to my knowledge, there are no aftermarket shock replacements for the 3GS at this time. The DF210's will work well with your OEM shock setup, even if you have AVS.
Anyone using coilovers on an AWD?
12-12-07, 09:36 AM
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I went with coilovers just because i change my wheels so often from 22's to 20's then back to the stock 18's. So i can adjust the height accordingly.
Another reason was i didnt want to go with lowering springs on the stock shocks and risk blowing out the shocks.
Then finally when im ready to either sell the car or if for some reason i need to take the car into the dealer i can just swap the suspension back to stock without the hassel of removing the lowering springs and then putting back in the oem springs.
But on the negative side the are a pain to adjust to the right height.
Another reason was i didnt want to go with lowering springs on the stock shocks and risk blowing out the shocks.
Then finally when im ready to either sell the car or if for some reason i need to take the car into the dealer i can just swap the suspension back to stock without the hassel of removing the lowering springs and then putting back in the oem springs.
But on the negative side the are a pain to adjust to the right height.
12-12-07, 11:57 AM
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I went with coilovers just because i change my wheels so often from 22's to 20's then back to the stock 18's. So i can adjust the height accordingly.
Another reason was i didnt want to go with lowering springs on the stock shocks and risk blowing out the shocks.
Then finally when im ready to either sell the car or if for some reason i need to take the car into the dealer i can just swap the suspension back to stock without the hassel of removing the lowering springs and then putting back in the oem springs.
But on the negative side the are a pain to adjust to the right height.
Another reason was i didnt want to go with lowering springs on the stock shocks and risk blowing out the shocks.
Then finally when im ready to either sell the car or if for some reason i need to take the car into the dealer i can just swap the suspension back to stock without the hassel of removing the lowering springs and then putting back in the oem springs.
But on the negative side the are a pain to adjust to the right height.
12-18-07, 09:47 PM
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No, but once you lower a car, the oem shock travel decreases and your shocks work a little harder to absorb the heavier spring rate and road imperfections.
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