Lexus TX
09-20-23, 02:17 PM
#32
I would like to get the 550h+Luxury but am also dismayed with the remarkable small selection of interior colors. Two blacks or peppercorn which is essentially an off-black and birch. What were they thinking? There's no way I would compromise so significantly when there are many other 'luxury' brands that offer way more selections. Sadly even within the Lexus brand RX/LX for instance you have ample options.
09-21-23, 09:35 AM
#33
I would like to get the 550h+Luxury but am also dismayed with the remarkable small selection of interior colors. Two blacks or peppercorn which is essentially an off-black and birch. What were they thinking? There's no way I would compromise so significantly when there are many other 'luxury' brands that offer way more selections. Sadly even within the Lexus brand RX/LX for instance you have ample options.
It's a distinct move down market and is a pretty clear sign of cost cutting.
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09-21-23, 12:21 PM
#34
I wish if Lexus would reveal whether there is going to be a TX350h (7 seat) version in the future. Looks like the hybrid versions are equally reliable and almost the same feel except for the price difference.
09-22-23, 12:08 PM
#35
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09-25-23, 09:29 AM
#37
The X7 put everything touchscreen and removed most ***** (for temperature, seat heaters, etc.). In spite of like everything else great about the X7, for me, that is a deal breaker given X7 owner feedback. The GLS is very nice but seems to suffer a reputation for reliability issues.
I've driven about 1,500 miles with both the X7 and GLS450 thanks to Sixt rentals which gave me a real opportunity to see how I liked them. I really did love driving them both. I've got a tall family (5'10, 6'2, 6'0, 6'3, 6'3") and the GLS was sensational for long ride comfort and luggage capacity. They both also have very quiet interiors and I'm assuming the TX won't be nearly as quiet.
That being said, I've owned Lexus' for years (LS400, LS430, LS460L, RX350, ES350) and they've been pretty much bulletproof. Everyone on this forum has a sense of that but also knows the Lexus technology is typically a little behind. I think the technology on these will be good to very good and the safety features comparable to competitors.
Performance will definitely be lacking by comparison to the X7 and GLS (the F-sport is closer but braking is always worse). My closest comparison is our 2014 RX350 which has similar horsepower and lower torque than the TX and yet, for the most part, we have never been bothered by that nor needing more "zip". I was strongly considering the TX F-sport but seeing how we've never really needed more power from our RX, the TX Luxury will be a good fit for our needs.
Important, as mentioned by @malba2366, the TX will be substantially less expensive.
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09-25-23, 08:43 PM
#38
I like the TX a lot, but am a little disappointed in the powertrains (in addition to the lack of options available). I have read reviews of the Grand Highlander that the non-hybrid 2.4L is sluggish. Both X7 and GLS offer TTV6 and TTV8 options with lots of power. Granted, you pay a 30K premium for that (as well as full leather, etc.). I would like to see a TX600h option in the future that has the same hybrid TTV6 in the upcoming GX550h+. But that 4wd system is different than the TX AWD, so that may be why it's not offered.
09-26-23, 12:25 PM
#39
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I like the TX a lot, but am a little disappointed in the powertrains (in addition to the lack of options available). I have read reviews of the Grand Highlander that the non-hybrid 2.4L is sluggish. Both X7 and GLS offer TTV6 and TTV8 options with lots of power. Granted, you pay a 30K premium for that (as well as full leather, etc.). I would like to see a TX600h option in the future that has the same hybrid TTV6 in the upcoming GX550h+. But that 4wd system is different than the TX AWD, so that may be why it's not offered.
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09-26-23, 07:06 PM
#41
It's de-contenting, plain and simple, and the only reasonable explanation is cost cutting. 🤷
09-26-23, 08:00 PM
#42
I'm loving it! I've been told Lexus is going to fully load up all TX Luxury package options, so I'd end up with 22" wheels which isn't a good thing in Minnesota. On the other hand, with every option including the 22" wheels, the MSRP would be $69,675.
I'm actually thrilled with that as a new X7 or GLS would be about $100k. I'll probably be just as happy driving the TX and keep the extra $30k in my pocket knowing I'll have less depreciation and maintenance costs as well.
The extra performance of the German SUVs doesn't matter though the TX won't likely be as quiet which is the only thing I may miss.
The F-Sport intrigues me but it only really gives speed and doesn't match some of the other characteristics in terms of handling compared to the German SUVs.
I'm actually thrilled with that as a new X7 or GLS would be about $100k. I'll probably be just as happy driving the TX and keep the extra $30k in my pocket knowing I'll have less depreciation and maintenance costs as well.
The extra performance of the German SUVs doesn't matter though the TX won't likely be as quiet which is the only thing I may miss.
The F-Sport intrigues me but it only really gives speed and doesn't match some of the other characteristics in terms of handling compared to the German SUVs.
09-28-23, 12:43 PM
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10-02-23, 07:39 AM
#45
I used to have an LS ultra edition which I loved. What a smooth ride; but every time I brought it to the dealer for regular check-ups it would cost me at least a $1000. It was always we replace the fuel pump at so and so miles or the belts or you name it always replacing something even though working fine. It became frustrating. It made me wonder how reliable these cars actually are if they're replacing everything anyway. Once I noticed a small wire was protruding on the corner of sunscreen that comes up on the rear window and they pulled it out essentially breaking it. I sent Lexus a note and they gave me a $500 certificate to use on future purchases which was used up with the next service. Imagine if every GM or Ford dealership replaced unbroken parts when you went for an oil change that wouldn't work out too well. Finally the air shocks started to go and putting another 4+ K wasn't going to happen. That all said, I wanted to replace it with another Lexus but an SUV but then they came out with this fish-mouth front which I hated so I actually went with a Buick Enclave as I liked the rounded look and it had plenty of room. It also takes regular gas and every time I bring it to the dealer it costs me less than $100 not over a $1000 and have had nothing wrong except rear shock which I replaced both with even better than it came with and still cost me still less than $300. I would like to get another SUV and now I see Lexus ahs changed the front grill to something I like but am not interested in the same engines that are in the Toyota GH and am looking at the 550+ Luxury and was hoping it would be around the 75K mark but looks like it will be way over that. What more, there isn't much selection with interior colors. You get a choice of either black or birch neither I like or want. I have driven MB GLS 450 which is very roomy and luxurious and had plenty of power. The BMW X740i which was also very luxurious but not as roomy as the GLS but I felt handled a bit better. The thing is these cars are not made on the same assembly line as a lower-end version and tweaked up. They are designed and manufactured specifically for that vehicle which I think is a big plus over the TX and for what I think the 550+ Luxury is going to cost I could get that BMW X7 which would certainly be more luxurious and handle better not to mention quieter. Not to forget how the Lexus dealers are going to put a premium over the MSRP like Toyota dealers are doing now with their GH. I do not see this with the Mercedes or BMW.
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