Stop Sale for Safety Concerns TX & GH - 6/20

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Old 06-22-24, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hyunwoo198
Well, this is what we get for buying 1st gen.
My TX already under recall.
Originally Posted by UTME06
If the press release from Toyota is the full story, this is probably not a buy back situation. Having the shop remove the headliner to install a revised airbag will not be the most convenient experience but that's why people tell you not to buy the first model year!

The initial post talked about structural issues as well; is there any information around other potential scope, or was that just rumor mill prior to the official statement?
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After my experience with my 2016 Honda Pilot, I told myself that I’d never buy a first gen after a redesign again, but the TX was so compelling and after all, it’s a Toyota!

Oops!

Looks like I’ll be sticking to that philosophy going forward.
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Originally Posted by Excitable Boy
After my experience with my 2016 Honda Pilot, I told myself that I’d never buy a first gen after a redesign again, but the TX was so compelling and after all, it’s a Toyota!

Oops!

Looks like I’ll be sticking to that philosophy going forward.
That’s been my philosophy… but I violated that when I bought the new first-gen RZ450e last year. Lexus bought it back 2-months ago after a spate of battery problems. So I just went with the 7th gen ES as a replacement. They definitely should have gotten all the bugs out of this generation after being in production for 5+ years.
Old 06-23-24, 07:51 PM
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I bought a TX 350 Luxury AWD on June 14. I have really liked the vehicle so far. We took it to the beach last week, and it performed admirably, both for 6 passengers (at times) and lots of cargo.

I am bumming about the recall. The 2024s are likely to all hit the dealers late fall, after competing brands/models start getting in their 2025 models. I predict heavy discounting. I wish I had waited. Oh well...
Old 06-24-24, 10:07 AM
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Lexus service rep thinks that this will be handled with a software update (kinda shrugged it off as easily fixed). Perhaps he's thinking the timing of the airbags or sequence will solve the issue.
Old 06-24-24, 02:28 PM
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For safety, to me, the real bummer is the Lexus TX only gets an "Acceptable" structure in the small overlap frontal test. An 'acceptable' structure should not occur in 2024.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...-overlap-front

In the side test, TX gets elevated pelvis force readings resulting in an "acceptable." It should be 'Good' for 2024, for a vehicle of that size, weight, and height.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...e-updated-test

When I first read "Lexus is fixing the structure," this is what I thought could be happening. but turns out they're just fixing the trim around the airbag.
Old 06-26-24, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
For safety, to me, the real bummer is the Lexus TX only gets an "Acceptable" structure in the small overlap frontal test. An 'acceptable' structure should not occur in 2024.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...-overlap-front

In the side test, TX gets elevated pelvis force readings resulting in an "acceptable." It should be 'Good' for 2024, for a vehicle of that size, weight, and height.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...e-updated-test

When I first read "Lexus is fixing the structure," this is what I thought could be happening. but turns out they're just fixing the trim around the airbag.
my rebuttal to this comment is all of these tests are done in a very controlled manner. most vehicle accidents look nothing like this and vehicles are safer than ever. while the tests are a decent indicator of the overall crash test safety of a vehicle, I rarely see crashes in the real world resemble what happens here (slamming into an immovable object with 1/5 of the front of the car).
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Old 06-28-24, 01:16 PM
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Additional details and seems like root cause is not found yet.

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Please note, if you not comfortable driving your current TX the dealer will swap it out for loaner or rental by law until they remedy a fix for situation.
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Originally Posted by Lexus1998
Please note, if you not comfortable driving your current TX the dealer will swap it out for loaner or rental by law until they remedy a fix for situation.
for real? I am going to call my dealer tomorrow if I have time...
Old 07-16-24, 02:58 PM
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Iirc they'll provide you a loaner (unspecified) for something like $60/day. It's definitely not free.
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The sky is falling!

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Old 07-16-24, 03:55 PM
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See below from recall notice, the dealer or yourself are able to charge back up to $60 per day to Toyota, meaning Toyota pays the bill. Dealer can charge back for the loaner, or if they need to go outside rental company.
I would definitely do this regardless if your uncomfortable driving it or not. Free miles and wear tear on loaner other then your car.



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Originally Posted by Lexus1998
See below from recall notice, the dealer or yourself are able to charge back up to $60 per day to Toyota, meaning Toyota pays the bill. Dealer can charge back for the loaner, or if they need to go outside rental company.
I would definitely do this regardless if your uncomfortable driving it or not. Free miles and wear tear on loaner other then your car.

I think this means the customer is responsible. I have seen stop sales on audi with airbag and occupancy sensor issues in the seat and never heard of free loaner/rental cars. taking out all the stuff in my car and driving a fish bowl without tinted windows in 95f heat isn't fun either. I doubt I would get a car with the same driver assist and features as well. just doesn't make sense to me.
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This is explaining to dealer how they claim cost it back from Toyota, if there safety recall with no resolution by law you are entitled to loaner or rental. It is as clear as black and white, understand dealer may not want do this but it is writing and if you had to escalate with Toyota they would accept it.
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Default No desire for loaner/rental car

I like driving my new TX. I don't feel unsafe, and I am not interested in driving a loaner/rental car unless my car is unsafe to drive.
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