Who said Air wasnt Functional except for Drop?
11-25-07, 11:21 PM
#35
I actually have my bags on teh way, to mount on my CST Boyz suspension on my Y33, that has S13 front end suspension c onversion.
that was a mouthful, but yeah. ill throw up install info when i finish it
that was a mouthful, but yeah. ill throw up install info when i finish it
12-05-07, 03:22 AM
#37
install info is on vipstylecars.com
since its not on a lexus
BUT i will say, it handles JUST as good if not slightly better than the coils....
i have the same coilover cores on the car, just UAS instead of springs
since its not on a lexus
BUT i will say, it handles JUST as good if not slightly better than the coils....
i have the same coilover cores on the car, just UAS instead of springs
12-05-07, 08:50 AM
#38
i currelt have an ls430 with sport suspension and i want the best ride posible should i be going with air runners vs the UAS money being of no object?
I thought i read that air runner is what lexus uses stock or did i miss read that post
i want to avoid if possible big tanks and loud pumps. how does the stock ls with air suspension do it?
I thought i read that air runner is what lexus uses stock or did i miss read that post
i want to avoid if possible big tanks and loud pumps. how does the stock ls with air suspension do it?
12-05-07, 09:15 AM
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i currelt have an ls430 with sport suspension and i want the best ride posible should i be going with air runners vs the UAS money being of no object?
I thought i read that air runner is what lexus uses stock or did i miss read that post
i want to avoid if possible big tanks and loud pumps. how does the stock ls with air suspension do it?
I thought i read that air runner is what lexus uses stock or did i miss read that post
i want to avoid if possible big tanks and loud pumps. how does the stock ls with air suspension do it?
Air Runners are made with Firestone bag and a specially made strut from KYB. I highly doubt Toyota uses the same parts.
Toyota uses a direct pump system, so it eliminates tanks. These are really quiet compressors, but they don't push out a lot of air. So it takes a lot longer to raise a car with the factory air suspension.
12-05-07, 09:58 AM
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Air Runners have a softer ride than UAS.
Air Runners are made with Firestone bag and a specially made strut from KYB. I highly doubt Toyota uses the same parts.
Toyota uses a direct pump system, so it eliminates tanks. These are really quiet compressors, but they don't push out a lot of air. So it takes a lot longer to raise a car with the factory air suspension.
Air Runners are made with Firestone bag and a specially made strut from KYB. I highly doubt Toyota uses the same parts.
Toyota uses a direct pump system, so it eliminates tanks. These are really quiet compressors, but they don't push out a lot of air. So it takes a lot longer to raise a car with the factory air suspension.
question for you then, poy. why uas doesn't have the option to use direct pump system then?
12-05-07, 10:41 AM
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Because a direct pump system needs a processor unit to control the compressors, sensors and valves. Since aftermarket systems needs to be priced for the target market, the development of a processor would make the system out of reach by most buyers. There's also the added cost of running four compressors instead of one.
12-05-07, 11:22 AM
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oic, so i guess the direct pump system is a lot more expensive huh? but in terms of quality any advantage to either of the design? it starts to seem like the air suspension on the ls are pretty "expensive" to build huh
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12-05-07, 12:40 PM
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oic, so i guess the direct pump system is a lot more expensive huh? but in terms of quality any advantage to either of the design? it starts to seem like the air suspension on the ls are pretty "expensive" to build huh
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12-05-07, 01:40 PM
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Yeah, an OEM system is very expensive to recreate. Pressure and level sensors has to be monitored and adjusted at all time. The system also has to know the difference between speed and load, since the car picks up more weight (down force) as it speeds up. There's so much parameters involved with an OEM system, I don't even wanna try and make a system like that.
I have an 02 LS430 sport suspension, is the OEM air suspension swappable?
12-05-07, 02:39 PM
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There are compressor out there that are relatively quiet, you can even build an insulated compartment for it to muffle the sound even more. You can also have a custom tank or tanks built to fit in different places. This all just takes time, money and effort. But sometimes it's not even worth it since, there's an OEM system available for the same car as you have.