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Old 09-21-02, 04:16 PM
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I am runnin Potenza S-03 285/30/19 My wheel does not rub at all. I think if you run a high offset, It should be no problem. My rear offset is +50. I am gonna run 255/35/19 on my front tires as. I know I will need a small spacer to clear the upper control arm. I will run a 5mm spacer just to be sure. by the looks of it, The setup will still fit below and inside the fender.

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BTW RMMGS4,
I didn't think Michellin made 285/ "35" /19. I know they make 30 series tires. Where did you get these bad boys from
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Originally posted by HI98GS
BTW RMMGS4,
I didn't think Michellin made 285/ "35" /19. I know they make 30 series tires. Where did you get these bad boys from

Good catch HI98GS, I meant to say 285/30-19. Correction made.

Go to: www.Tirerack.com

Michelin sells the Pilot Sports in 275 & 285 sizes for the 30 series.


Mod to get this to fit:
Just the top of the inner fender lip is ground down with a belt sander. If you look at the screws that hold down the black molding on your wheel arch, my molding is ground all the way down to the screw. The head of the screw is untouched, but is now at the edge of the modded lip.



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Old 09-22-02, 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by HI98GS
I am runnin Potenza S-03 285/30/19 My wheel does not rub at all. I think if you run a high offset, It should be no problem. My rear offset is +50. I am gonna run 255/35/19 on my front tires as. I know I will need a small spacer to clear the upper control arm. I will run a 5mm spacer just to be sure. by the looks of it, The setup will still fit below and inside the fender.

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Yup, thats the same rear tire Im using(285/30/19 S-03)...Heres another thread about shaving fenders for 285/30/19's: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=42842), I realized during my install that with the 285's on a 19x10" wheel, there is still ALOT of space available to the "shock" side....I am still of the opinion that what MOST CL members consider the "BEST" offset for a 19x10" wheel(Usually between +37-+41) is not the best set-up. +48-+50 is going to allow 275's OR 285's to clear WITHOUT fender mods, and will still allow plenty of space on the "shock" side of the wheel...
The Gettin's are available in 19x10"+41(which is what I have) and 19x10"+48(for SupraTT, etc...) If I were to purchase this dia./width again, I would get the +48... JMO, thanks, Tiny
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very good observation, sheriff tiny( on the gettins) ..hehehe, jk..

you are absolutely correct..on the 10s, japan also adviced +49 for a supra with 20x10s work LS..
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Originally posted by tinygs


Yup, thats the same rear tire Im using(285/30/19 S-03)...Heres another thread about shaving fenders for 285/30/19's: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...threadid=42842), I realized during my install that with the 285's on a 19x10" wheel, there is still ALOT of space available to the "shock" side....I am still of the opinion that what MOST CL members consider the "BEST" offset for a 19x10" wheel(Usually between +37-+41) is not the best set-up. +48-+50 is going to allow 275's OR 285's to clear WITHOUT fender mods, and will still allow plenty of space on the "shock" side of the wheel...
The Gettin's are available in 19x10"+41(which is what I have) and 19x10"+48(for SupraTT, etc...) If I were to purchase this dia./width again, I would get the +48... JMO, thanks, Tiny

Tinygs,
So how much clearance would you say there is on the inside with your +41 offset?

Assuming there was an appropriate wheel width and offset available, how wide a tire can we squeeze between the shock/coil and a shaved fender? Pirelli has a 335/25-19 tire available. On paper it calculates to within 1/16" of the same diameter as a 285/30, but it's almost 2 inches wider. You'd probably need a 12" wide rim to boot.

Michelin makes a 345/30-19, but that diameter & width would probably be pushing it.

If the Michelin would fit and I could exchange the inner rim half of my 3pc. wheel, I would definitely put this on my wish list.




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Originally posted by RMMGS4



Tinygs,
So how much clearance would you say there is on the inside with your +41 offset?

Assuming there was an appropriate wheel width and offset available, how wide a tire can we squeeze between the shock/coil and a shaved fender? Pirelli has a 335/25-19 tire available. On paper it calculates to within 1/16" of the same diameter as a 285/30, but it's almost 2 inches wider. You'd probably need a 12" wide rim to boot.

Michelin makes a 345/30-19, but that diameter & width would probably be pushing it.

If the Michelin would fit and I could exchange the inner rim half of my 3pc. wheel, I would definitely put this on my wish list.




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This is a topic that Sasha and I went back and forth about right after I got my wheels also.... My wheel/tire has more than 2 inches to the "shock" side without anyone in my car. IMHO, if my 19x10" wheel was a +48 instead of a +41, I could easily fit a 295mm tire with NO rubbing.....Also, I would not have had to shave my fenders to fit the 285's..Considering the additional 5mm of tire on each side, this set up would be 2mm FURTHER from my fender(while only SLIGHTLY taller) and 12mm closer to my shock/coil.......
I have never seen ANYONE on this board recommend going with the offset rangin from +45-+50 as a rule of thumb, but IMO, it should be the standard with a 9.5" or 10" rear wheel IF your intention is to run 285mm tire or maybe even larger.....
Has anyone actually tried this??? Also, does anyone have access to a 10" wide wheel w/+50 offset and a 295 tire???
I know that HI98GS(Ricky) has Work Equips from his SupraTT that are a +50 offset and he is using 285/30/19 S-03's with no rubbing and no fender mod....
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RMMGS4 - Thanks for getting all those pics posted! I know all of us who would like to run 285s really appreciate it!!! I just got back from an extremely long weekend, so sorry for the delayed response I love the Enkei Phalanx and I really like your car...clean! I have until winter to decide, so I will absurb all of this info and try to make a wise decision
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Your welcome MikeGS4PE,

between Tinygs and me, you probably have all you need to know. Shoot us what you get when you finally decide what to buy. I heard somewhere (don't remember exactly) that the Phalenx were being blown out. My wheels were painted to match the car by the way. They come in chrome or gunmetal gray.


Now this thread has really got me thinking about how to squeeze in 335/25's. Realistic ? ? I'm gonna measure this myself next weekend.

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Hehe... Will I need to do some cutting if I go with the 285/30 S-03 or the Michelin Pilots? I am running a 19x10 +45 rear wheel...

Are you actually considering this option RMMGS4???? That would be sick!!! In a good way of course Different!

I hope there is a supercharger/turbo/nitrous oxide to back up those extremely wide tires
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On smooth surface roads I can spin both tires for 10-20 feet and I have the LSD. So I'm lookin for an excuse to add more power in order to spin those big meats.





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Originally posted by MikeGS4PE
Hehe... Will I need to do some cutting if I go with the 285/30 S-03 or the Michelin Pilots? I am running a 19x10 +45 rear wheel...

Are you actually considering this option RMMGS4???? That would be sick!!! In a good way of course Different!

I hope there is a supercharger/turbo/nitrous oxide to back up those extremely wide tires
Well, Im using a 19x10"+41 and I only rubbed the fender a MAX of 2mm.
IMO, +45 with the 285 S-03(which is considered the "beefeist" 285) will NOT rub...
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Finally pulled my wheel off to measure the clearance between my Tein coils and the tire sidewall.

I calculated that I can go up to a 315 width tire and use an 11 in wide rim. This gives me about a 1/4 inch to spare.

Now if I only knew the offset on my Enkei's. Wasn't on their website.

If I ever get serious with this, I'll have to find a wheel maker who will offer a 19 x 11 wheel with the correct offset. If Enkei makes a rim half that is an inch wider for my current 3 piece, then we're in business.

The second problem is I haven't seen a 315 series tire offered in 19". This is probably the biggest obstacle.

Pirelli offers a 315, but only in 18".


I'll be scoping all this out, but for now this is just a dream.


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Originally posted by RMMGS4
Finally pulled my wheel off to measure the clearance between my Tein coils and the tire sidewall.

I calculated that I can go up to a 315 width tire and use an 11 in wide rim. This gives me about a 1/4 inch to spare.

Now if I only knew the offset on my Enkei's. Wasn't on their website.

If I ever get serious with this, I'll have to find a wheel maker who will offer a 19 x 11 wheel with the correct offset. If Enkei makes a rim half that is an inch wider for my current 3 piece, then we're in business.

The second problem is I haven't seen a 315 series tire offered in 19". This is probably the biggest obstacle.

Pirelli offers a 315, but only in 18".


I'll be scoping all this out, but for now this is just a dream.


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We shall know soon....
I recently upgraded to the SRT "race ecu", added the TM spark plugs, and switched to the SupraTT 3.76 LSD...
I use the SupraTT stock 17's as my back up wheels. They have 235/45/17'sF(+45 I believe), 255/40/17R(+50 I believe)...... Right now on Tire Rack the 315/35/17 BFG Comp T/A drag radial is available for $156 each.... THAT IS CHEAP for that much beef...and its a drag radial.......
So, as I have been intending to go to the track to see what Ive gained from my recent mods, I might just order those to fit on SupraTT rear wheels for my fun trips to the track.....
By the way, that tire is WIDELY used by SupraTT's for track use......even though a 315 on a 9.5" wheel is not ideal.....

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GOod info on tire size.


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