AWD Staggered wheels?
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Originally Posted by s6 4rings
First off a handy site for you all...
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit
You can run a staggered setup without any issues as long as the rolling diameter is within 2% of eachother.
Quote from Audiworld...
"It's like this...sidewall is generally a percentage of tread width. So if the front has 19" tires with 245 treadwidth and 40% sidewalls and the rear has 19" tires with 275 treadwidth and 40% sidewalls then the rolling dia of the rears is generally larger.
Yes you can do it if you're careful to get a somewhat lower sidewall on the rear. Solve the equation (rear width)Xrear sidewall percent equals (front width)Xfront sidewall percent for the family of equal diameter tires that will work.
Still, I wouldn't do it...the quattros tend to understeer anyway and beeger tires on the rear won't help."
I can shed more light on it if this doesn't help!?!?
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit
You can run a staggered setup without any issues as long as the rolling diameter is within 2% of eachother.
Quote from Audiworld...
"It's like this...sidewall is generally a percentage of tread width. So if the front has 19" tires with 245 treadwidth and 40% sidewalls and the rear has 19" tires with 275 treadwidth and 40% sidewalls then the rolling dia of the rears is generally larger.
Yes you can do it if you're careful to get a somewhat lower sidewall on the rear. Solve the equation (rear width)Xrear sidewall percent equals (front width)Xfront sidewall percent for the family of equal diameter tires that will work.
Still, I wouldn't do it...the quattros tend to understeer anyway and beeger tires on the rear won't help."
I can shed more light on it if this doesn't help!?!?
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Originally Posted by GS4fun
Who wants to be the AWD guinea pig and tell us what breaks when going with a staggered setup?
What I did find in the TIS is that if there is a wheel overspeed it will cause a cancellation in the 4WD system, requiring service. 1/2 of the causes being "tire size" and the other is the ECU. It indicates to change all tires to the same size for a soluition but there is no definition for "same". Anyways, I'm not even going to deal with it because a 20" staggered setup is very expensive to find out you can't use it if it causes problems.
The guy that posted pics of his white GSAWD with staggered 19" Lowenharts would be a good person to get feedback from. If he didn't encounter any issues then it would be okay. Unless he is using a tire setup that yields a 0% diff. Get him in this thread! I wish that the tire combo's for 245/30/20 and 285/25/20 yielded a 0% diff.
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I have Asanti Af 120 - 20"
Front is 245/30 20
Rear is 275/35 20
I forgot how to put pictures on... but i have links to my old threads on Houston imports...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239450
sorry for the inconvienent....
Front is 245/30 20
Rear is 275/35 20
I forgot how to put pictures on... but i have links to my old threads on Houston imports...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239450
sorry for the inconvienent....
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Originally Posted by ferrarilon
I have Asanti Af 120 - 20"
Front is 245/30 20
Rear is 275/35 20
I forgot how to put pictures on... but i have links to my old threads on Houston imports...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239450
sorry for the inconvienent....
Front is 245/30 20
Rear is 275/35 20
I forgot how to put pictures on... but i have links to my old threads on Houston imports...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239450
sorry for the inconvienent....
Looks good BTW!
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Originally Posted by ferrarilon
I have had staggerd wheels on my AWD for almost 8 months. The dealer didn't say anything.. and nothing really happened. I guess its ok??????
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Originally Posted by ferrarilon
I have Asanti Af 120 - 20"
Front is 245/30 20
Rear is 275/35 20
I forgot how to put pictures on... but i have links to my old threads on Houston imports...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239450
sorry for the inconvienent....
Front is 245/30 20
Rear is 275/35 20
I forgot how to put pictures on... but i have links to my old threads on Houston imports...
http://www.houston-imports.com/forum...d.php?t=239450
sorry for the inconvienent....
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Originally Posted by nardeezy
Dogg, you da man! Dude, you're front to rear % diff is huge! Running a 245/30 and 275/35 should make your rolling diameter in the rear significantly larger (+3%). Are you sure they're 275/35 in the rear and are you sure you had no issues? What are the roads like in Texas? I'm definitely going with 245/30 and 285/25 with Tanabe NF210's (hopefully). Since you installed that staggered setup on your car without knowing the possible drawbacks, why don't you hook up some Tanabe NF or DF210's and let us know if it works. If they do work, which they should than your car will look sick. I have the same car you have bro!
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Originally Posted by nardeezy
It looks like you're running Nitto 555 tires. I looked up the spec's, if you're running the same brand and style in the rear you're probably running 245/35/20 (26.69 RD) front and 275/30/20 (26.61 RD) in the rear, yielding a .299% diff. That's pretty low! Those are the only available tire sizes for 20" wheels in the Nitto 555. If I ran a 245/35 and 285/25 the lowest it would yield is a .77% diff, more than double what you have.
285/30 is a better match with 245/35 than 275/30.... the sideware of 275/30 is quite a bit less.
here's the math:
sidewall of 245/35 = 85.75 = 3.375" (overall diamter is 26.75")
sidewall of 275/30 = 82.5 = 3.248" (overall diameter is 26.49")
sidewall of 285/30 = 85.5 = 3.366" (overall diameter is 26.73")
so you can see the 285/30 is a much better match. difference between 245 and 275 is about 0.97%, whereas between 245 and 285 it's about 0.07%
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moreover, the side of the rim you put the tires on will have effect as well.
for example, if you have 8.5 front and 10 in the back, then 245 and 285 is a good choice
now if you do 245 and 275. the 275 will actually stretch in the rear a bit, making the overall diameter even smaller, so the difference will be even more than 0.97%.
for example, if you have 8.5 front and 10 in the back, then 245 and 285 is a good choice
now if you do 245 and 275. the 275 will actually stretch in the rear a bit, making the overall diameter even smaller, so the difference will be even more than 0.97%.
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Originally Posted by rominl
i don't know but i don't think your calculation is right.
285/30 is a better match with 245/35 than 275/30.... the sideware of 275/30 is quite a bit less.
here's the math:
sidewall of 245/35 = 85.75 = 3.375" (overall diamter is 26.75")
sidewall of 275/30 = 82.5 = 3.248" (overall diameter is 26.49")
sidewall of 285/30 = 85.5 = 3.366" (overall diameter is 26.73")
so you can see the 285/30 is a much better match. difference between 245 and 275 is about 0.97%, whereas between 245 and 285 it's about 0.07%
285/30 is a better match with 245/35 than 275/30.... the sideware of 275/30 is quite a bit less.
here's the math:
sidewall of 245/35 = 85.75 = 3.375" (overall diamter is 26.75")
sidewall of 275/30 = 82.5 = 3.248" (overall diameter is 26.49")
sidewall of 285/30 = 85.5 = 3.366" (overall diameter is 26.73")
so you can see the 285/30 is a much better match. difference between 245 and 275 is about 0.97%, whereas between 245 and 285 it's about 0.07%
ferrarilon didn't say what his wheel widths were. I'm assuming 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 are for 20x8.5 and 20x9.5 wheels. Using those size wheels and tires would yield 26.61" and 26.69" not sure which is the front and rear OD's(according to the Nitto spec) , yielding a .299% diff.
Last edited by nardeezy; 03-10-06 at 07:36 AM.